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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Hoch and HochHom variations
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Thu Aug 3 09:38:56 2017
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On 8/3/2017 5:53 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> Hoch chab = each pie
> Hoch chabmey = all pies
> HochHom chabmey = almost all the pies
*HochHom */thing(s)/ = /almost all of the //things/ is not found in
canon, but I think no one would find it exceptional.
> chab Hoch = all the pie
> chab HochHom = almost all (of the) pie
/thing/ *HochHom* = /almost all of the thing/ is found in canon;
/thing/*Hoch* = /all of the thing/ is not. The latter is an
extrapolation based on the former.
> Would the following make sense ? Would they actually mean anything,
> and if yes then what ?
>
> chabmey Hoch
> HochHom chab
> chabmey HochHom
You're asking about explicit plural suffixes or their lack. The answer
is we don't know.
If I had to guess, I'd guess that *chabmey Hoch* /pies' allness/ refers
to the totality of the group of pies (rather than to the pies
themselves), *HochHom chab* means exactly the same thing as *HochHom
chabmey,* and *chabmey HochHom* /pies' almost-allness/ refers to the
not-quite-totality of the group of pies.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/3/2017 5:53 AM, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAP7F2cJg6vHNm6N4So0k1hwMvOsoR9zfQxYLah5ZQk8P06bORw@mail.gmail.com">
<pre wrap="">Hoch chab = each pie
Hoch chabmey = all pies
HochHom chabmey = almost all the pies</pre>
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<p><b>HochHom </b><i>thing(s)</i> = <i>almost all of the </i><i>things</i>
is not found in canon, but I think no one would find it
exceptional.<br>
</p>
<br>
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cite="mid:CAP7F2cJg6vHNm6N4So0k1hwMvOsoR9zfQxYLah5ZQk8P06bORw@mail.gmail.com">
<pre wrap="">chab Hoch = all the pie
chab HochHom = almost all (of the) pie</pre>
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<br>
<p><i>thing</i> <b>HochHom</b> = <i>almost all of the thing</i> is
found in canon; <i>thing</i><b> Hoch</b> = <i>all of the thing</i>
is not. The latter is an extrapolation based on the former.<br>
</p>
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cite="mid:CAP7F2cJg6vHNm6N4So0k1hwMvOsoR9zfQxYLah5ZQk8P06bORw@mail.gmail.com">
<pre wrap="">Would the following make sense ? Would they actually mean anything,
and if yes then what ?
chabmey Hoch
HochHom chab
chabmey HochHom</pre>
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<p>You're asking about explicit plural suffixes or their lack. The
answer is we don't know.</p>
<p>If I had to guess, I'd guess that <b>chabmey Hoch</b> <i>pies'
allness</i> refers to the totality of the group of pies (rather
than to the pies themselves), <b>HochHom chab</b> means exactly
the same thing as <b>HochHom chabmey,</b> and <b>chabmey HochHom</b>
<i>pies' almost-allness</i> refers to the not-quite-totality of
the group of pies.<br>
</p>
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