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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Imperatives and {-be'}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Anthony Appleyard)
Fri Jul 7 00:16:27 2017
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The be' with imperative restriction may have been copied from Latin, where for "do not fear!", the obvious "non time" is wrong, and "ne time" is dialectal and poetic, and the usual classical prose form is "noli timere" = "be unwilling to fear".
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From : mihkoun@gmail.com
Date : 06/07/2017 - 16:14 (GMTST)
To : tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject : [tlhIngan Hol] Imperatives and {-be'}
Apologising once more in advance for quoting boQwI', I need to bring this up, because there I read that..
"Even though tkd says that {-be'} cannot be used with imperatives, it seems that this means only that it cannot be used to form negative imperatives. For example, a sentence such as {HIleghbe'moH} seems to be possible"
I can't understand this. Isn't the {HIleghbe'moH} a negative imperative ? Doesn't it mean "make me not see !" ?
qunnoq
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The be' with imperative restriction may have been copied from Latin, where =
for "do not fear!", the obvious "non time" is wrong, and "ne time" is diale=
ctal and poetic, and the usual classical prose form is "noli timere" =3D "b=
e unwilling to fear".<br><blockquote style=3D"margin-right: 0px; margin-lef=
t:15px;">----Original message----<br>From : mihkoun@gmail.com<br>Date : 06/=
07/2017 - 16:14 (GMTST)<br>To : tlhingan-hol@kli.org<br>Subject : [tlhIngan=
Hol] Imperatives and {-be'}<br><br><div dir=3D"auto">Apologising once more=
in advance for quoting boQwI', I need to bring this up, because there I re=
ad that..<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">"Even though tkd say=
s that {-be'} cannot be used with imperatives, it seems that this means onl=
y that it cannot be used to form negative imperatives. For example, a sente=
nce such as {HIleghbe'moH} seems to be possible"</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto">I can't understand this. Isn't the {HIleghbe'moH} =
a negative imperative ? Doesn't it mean "make me not see !" ?</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">qunnoq</div></div>
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