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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] The problem with pIqaD

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Wed Jul 5 08:19:56 2017

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I think they're not really "new Klingon characters" (the letters, I mean),
but just a different font, more stylish. Like Arial compared to Times New
Roman. If they're indeed canon, it's a good way to base one's handwriting
one, perhaps.

I remember having seen the same characters on some picture with the
Starfleet logo in the back, last year or so.

Personally, I can't read much of the pIqaD (gotta learn it too), but the
letter match the common-style Klingon pIqaD. With some eyeball matching and
imagination I think you can figure out which letter is which. I think the
first line ends in -ta'. First word of the second line is qul, etc.

- Andr=C3=A9

2017-07-05 15:55 GMT+06:30 mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>:

> ghunchu'wI':
> > it also includes a pair of sentences written in a somewhat
> Stargate-looking pIqaD.
>
> thanks for posting the link. I went to that address and saw these two
> sentences.
>
> ok, they are good, but I prefer the KLI pIqaD as it seen here:
> http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/PIqaD
>
> The pIqaD I am talking about, is the one which is displayed under the
> bold letters saying "This is the set created and used by the KLI". The
> reason why I like this better, is because the characters resemble
> blades, which of course is consistent with the klingon warrior
> tradition.
>
> But lets get back to the new characters of the cbs series.. All I saw
> was the two lines displayed on that page. Does the video display more
> lines/characters ? I am asking because when I tried to watch the
> video, I got a message saying "the video you have requested is not
> available for your geographic region".
>
> And something else.. Do we have an one-on-one mapping of these new
> characters for the entire klingon alphabet ?
>
> qunnoq
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote=
:
> > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 3:39 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Are these new characters anywhere to be found in the klingon language
> wiki
> >> ? Or anywhere else ?
> >
> >
> > http://www.cbs.com/shows/star-trek-discovery/news/1006273/
> star-trek-discovery-reveals-klingon-characters-/
> >
> > When it says "characters" it is actually referring to the cast, but it
> also
> > includes a pair of sentences written in a somewhat Stargate-looking
> pIqaD.
> >
> > -- ghunchu'wI'
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>I think they&#39;re not really &quot;new Kl=
ingon characters&quot; (the letters, I mean), but just a different font, mo=
re stylish. Like Arial compared to Times New Roman. If they&#39;re indeed c=
anon, it&#39;s a good way to base one&#39;s handwriting one, perhaps.<br><b=
r></div>I remember having seen the same characters on some picture with the=
 Starfleet logo in the back, last year or so.<br><br></div>Personally, I ca=
n&#39;t read much of the pIqaD (gotta learn it too), but the letter match t=
he common-style Klingon pIqaD. With some eyeball matching and imagination I=
 think you can figure out which letter is which. I think the first line end=
s in -ta&#39;. First word of the second line is qul, etc.<br><br></div>- An=
dr=C3=A9<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>2017-07-05 15:55 GMT+06:30 mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">ghunchu&#39;wI&#39;:<br>
<span class=3D"">&gt; it also includes a pair of sentences written in a som=
ewhat Stargate-looking pIqaD.<br>
<br>
</span>thanks for posting the link. I went to that address and saw these tw=
o sentences.<br>
<br>
ok, they are good, but I prefer the KLI pIqaD as it seen here:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/PIqaD" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/<wbr>PIqaD</a><br>
<br>
The pIqaD I am talking about, is the one which is displayed under the<br>
bold letters saying &quot;This is the set created and used by the KLI&quot;=
. The<br>
reason why I like this better, is because the characters resemble<br>
blades, which of course is consistent with the klingon warrior<br>
tradition.<br>
<br>
But lets get back to the new characters of the cbs series.. All I saw<br>
was the two lines displayed on that page. Does the video display more<br>
lines/characters ? I am asking because when I tried to watch the<br>
video, I got a message saying &quot;the video you have requested is not<br>
available for your geographic region&quot;.<br>
<br>
And something else.. Do we have an one-on-one mapping of these new<br>
characters for the entire klingon alphabet ?<br>
<br>
qunnoq<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Alan Anderson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:qunchu=
y@alcaco.net">qunchuy@alcaco.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 3:39 AM, mayqel qunenoS &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m=
ihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Are these new characters anywhere to be found in the klingon langu=
age wiki<br>
&gt;&gt; ? Or anywhere else ?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.cbs.com/shows/star-trek-discovery/news/1006273/s=
tar-trek-discovery-reveals-klingon-characters-/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.cbs.com/shows/star-<wbr>trek-discovery/news/1006273/=
<wbr>star-trek-discovery-reveals-<wbr>klingon-characters-/</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; When it says &quot;characters&quot; it is actually referring to the ca=
st, but it also<br>
&gt; includes a pair of sentences written in a somewhat Stargate-looking pI=
qaD.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -- ghunchu&#39;wI&#39;<br>
&gt;<br>
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