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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: SoD
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Thu May 18 12:04:50 2017
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On 5/18/2017 11:42 AM, Steven Boozer wrote:
>>>>> Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, May 18, 2017
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>>>>> Klingon word: SoD
>>>>> Part of speech: noun
>>>>> Definition: flood
> Voragh:
>>>> AFAIK never used in canon.
> De'vID:
>>> That depends on your definition of "canon". It was used in the lyrics
>>> of a drinking song in the DS9 episode "The Way of the Warrior".
> Also in VOY "Prophecy" and VOY "Barge of the Dead" apparently. Full text and discussion at:
>
> http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Klingon_drinking_song
>
>> Actually, that was the homophonous verb. Never mind.
> I found the relevant line:
>
> 'ej Doq SoDtaH ghoSpa' SIqral bIQtIq
> And the River Skral ran crimson red.
Before any beginners get confused trying to translate it, be warned it's
not grammatical. The origin of the line is given here
<http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/River_Skral>, and ghunchu'wI''s
valiant attempt to work out what the writer had in mind is given here
<http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/DrinkingSong>. Literally, the line above
reads something like /and it is red, it is flooding, before the Skral
River goes./
A literal translation of /and the River Skral ran crimson read/ might be
*'ej Doqqu'choH SIqral bIQtIq, *which simply means /and the River Skral
becomes red./ If we remember that Klingon blood is supposed to be pink
(something the writers often forget), we might say *'ej DoqchoH SIqral
bIQtIq 'ej wovchoH*/and the River Skral becomes pink./
The point of the line is to tell how the river is filled with blood.
Literally, that might be *'ej SIqral bIQtIq teb 'Iw*/and blood fills the
River Skral./ Or we might be interested in how the river turns the color
of blood, even though most of what we're looking at is still water: *'ej
Doqqu'choH SIqral bIQtIq; 'Iw rur*/and the River Skral becomes red as
blood./
Oh well, at least we got actual Klingon words, even if they were put
together ungrammatically and pronounced horribly.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/18/2017 11:42 AM, Steven Boozer
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<pre wrap="">Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, May 18, 2017
Klingon word: SoD
Part of speech: noun
Definition: flood
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Voragh:
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<pre wrap="">AFAIK never used in canon.
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De'vID:
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<pre wrap="">That depends on your definition of "canon". It was used in the lyrics
of a drinking song in the DS9 episode "The Way of the Warrior".
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Also in VOY "Prophecy" and VOY "Barge of the Dead" apparently. Full text and discussion at:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Klingon_drinking_song">http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Klingon_drinking_song</a>
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<pre wrap="">Actually, that was the homophonous verb. Never mind.
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I found the relevant line:
'ej Doq SoDtaH ghoSpa' SIqral bIQtIq
And the River Skral ran crimson red.
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<p>Before any beginners get confused trying to translate it, be
warned it's not grammatical. The origin of the line is given <a
href="http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/River_Skral">here</a>,
and ghunchu'wI''s valiant attempt to work out what the writer had
in mind is given <a
href="http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/DrinkingSong">here</a>.
Literally, the line above reads something like <i>and it is red,
it is flooding, before the Skral River goes.</i></p>
<p>A literal translation of <i>and the River Skral ran crimson read</i>
might be <b>'ej Doqqu'choH SIqral bIQtIq, </b>which simply means
<i>and the River Skral becomes red.</i> If we remember that
Klingon blood is supposed to be pink (something the writers often
forget), we might say <b>'ej DoqchoH SIqral bIQtIq 'ej wovchoH</b><i>
and the River Skral becomes pink.</i></p>
<p>The point of the line is to tell how the river is filled with
blood. Literally, that might be <b>'ej SIqral bIQtIq teb 'Iw</b><i>
and blood fills the River Skral.</i> Or we might be interested
in how the river turns the color of blood, even though most of
what we're looking at is still water: <b>'ej Doqqu'choH SIqral
bIQtIq; 'Iw rur</b><i> and the River Skral becomes red as blood.</i></p>
<p>Oh well, at least we got actual Klingon words, even if they were
put together ungrammatically and pronounced horribly.<br>
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