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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: yIb
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Apr 26 14:30:24 2017
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From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:30:20 +0000
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>>> Klingon word: yIb
>>> Part of speech: noun
>>> Definition: vent
>>> Source: TKD
Voragh wrote:
>> Not sure how this is different from the noun {ghImwI'} "exhaust", used
>> once in the BOP Poster:
>> peng baHjan tuj ghImwI'
>> heat exhaust for torpedo launcher (KBoP)
>>
>> Is {yIb} more of an opening while {ghImwI'} - derived from {ghIm}
>> "exile" - is an active device?
Kechpaja/SapIr:
> I would assume that a {ghImwI'} is a type of {yIb}. A vent doesn't
> necessarily have to be used for getting rid of some substance, even
> though that's what we normally think of when we hear the word.
>> SEE ALSO:
>> tlhuch exhaust (v)
>> vuj expel, eject (v) (qep'a' 2016)
>> nIj leak (v)
>
> Do we know what the argument structure of {nIj} is? Is the subject the
> substance that's leaking, or the object from which it is leaking?
Good question but AFAIK {nIj} has never been used in a sentence.
>> tlhuD emit (v)
>> natlh use up (v)
>
> What are the main semantic differences between {natlh} and {tlhuch}?
natlh use up, consume, expend:
KGT 155: Literally meaning "consume, use up, expend", {natlh} is normally applied to energy, fuel, supplies, and the like and is used in phrases such as {nIn Hoch natlhlu'pu'} ("All the fuel has been consumed"), with {nIn Hoch} ("all the fuel") functioning as the object of the verb {natlhlu'pu'} ("someone/something has consumed it").
HoS law'qu' natlhmo' So'wI'
Due to the tremendous energy drain of a cloaking device... S33
tlhuD emit (energy, radiation):
chIch vay' 'oy'moHmeH 'oy'naQ 'ul law' tlhuD 'oH
Painstiks... emit a highly-charged shock for the express
purpose of inflicting pain. S32
> Slash which sense of "exhaust" does {tlhuch} refer to (exhausting a
> person, exhausting a resource, or emitting exhaust)?
AFAIK {tlhuch} has never been used either.
--
Voragh
tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a'
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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