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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] {DeSqIv} and {noq}
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qurgh lungqIj)
Tue Apr 4 11:51:12 2017
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From: qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 11:51:06 -0400
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It's still there, we're just moving stuff around for the next qep'a':
http://www.kli.org/activities/qepmey/past-qepamey/qepa-chamah-wejdich/new-words/
qurgh
On Apr 4, 2017 3:45 AM, "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just noticed something odd.
>
> Recently, we were given the noun {noq}, meaning both nipple (anatomy)
> and nipple (like on a bottle). The plural is {noqDu'} when referring
> to a body part, and {noqmey} when referring to bottles.
>
> In KGT, we were told this about {DeSqIv}:
> <A {bargh} is probably the most frequently used pot. It is rather
> large and has a flattened bottom. The smaller {nevDagh} is
> characterized by its V-shaped handles, termed {DeSqIvDu'} ("elbows";
> note that {-Du'}, the plural suffix for body parts, is used here even
> though the handles are not literally body parts).>
>
> Previously, some people have taken this to imply that body parts were
> a noun class in Klingon, and that body part words take the {-Du'}
> suffix even when not referring to a body part. But {noq} seems to
> contradict this.
>
> What's going on here? Is one or the other of {noq} or {DeSqIv} an
> exception to the rule, and if so, what's the rule? Or does each body
> part word work differently when used to refer to a non-body-part in
> the plural, and it's just something you have to memorise?
>
> Incidentally, the online version of the qep'a' booklet where {noq} was
> given seems to have disappeared:
> http://www.kli.org/activities/qepmey/qepa-chamah-wejdich/new-words/
>
> Does anyone have a copy of it?
>
> --
> De'vID
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<div dir=3D"auto">It's still there, we're just moving stuff around =
for the next qep'a':<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
a href=3D"http://www.kli.org/activities/qepmey/past-qepamey/qepa-chamah-wej=
dich/new-words/">http://www.kli.org/activities/qepmey/past-qepamey/qepa-cha=
mah-wejdich/new-words/</a><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">qurgh</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Apr 4, 2017 3:45 AM, "De'vID" <<a href=3D"mailto=
:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type=3D=
"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I just noticed something odd.<=
br>
<br>
Recently, we were given the noun {noq}, meaning both nipple (anatomy)<br>
and nipple (like on a bottle). The plural is {noqDu'} when referring<br=
>
to a body part, and {noqmey} when referring to bottles.<br>
<br>
In KGT, we were told this about {DeSqIv}:<br>
<A {bargh} is probably the most frequently used pot. It is rather<br>
large and has a flattened bottom. The smaller {nevDagh} is<br>
characterized by its V-shaped handles, termed {DeSqIvDu'} ("elbows=
";<br>
note that {-Du'}, the plural suffix for body parts, is used here even<b=
r>
though the handles are not literally body parts).><br>
<br>
Previously, some people have taken this to imply that body parts were<br>
a noun class in Klingon, and that body part words take the {-Du'}<br>
suffix even when not referring to a body part. But {noq} seems to<br>
contradict this.<br>
<br>
What's going on here? Is one or the other of {noq} or {DeSqIv} an<br>
exception to the rule, and if so, what's the rule? Or does each body<br=
>
part word work differently when used to refer to a non-body-part in<br>
the plural, and it's just something you have to memorise?<br>
<br>
Incidentally, the online version of the qep'a' booklet where {noq} =
was<br>
given seems to have disappeared:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.kli.org/activities/qepmey/qepa-chamah-wejdich/new-wor=
ds/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.kli.org/activities/<wb=
r>qepmey/qepa-chamah-wejdich/<wbr>new-words/</a><br>
<br>
Does anyone have a copy of it?<br>
<br>
--<br>
De'vID<br>
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