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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] {DeSqIv} and {noq}

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Tue Apr 4 11:08:40 2017

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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 11:08:06 -0400
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On 4/4/2017 5:58 AM, De'vID wrote:
> But the point is that there is no existing rule. It's implied that
> when body part words are used with slang meanings, or to refer to
> things which are analogous to body parts, they remain grammatically
> body parts. People assumed a rule based on a few examples, but it now
> seems that we have about the same number of counterexamples.

Right. We have suggested a rule based on the KGT examples, but for my =

part I have always qualified it as speculative. We now have =

counterexamples, suggesting this is not a general rule=97the grammatical =

genders of "being capable of using language," "body part," and =

"everything else" are not necessarily baked into the nouns themselves, =

but may depend on which noun and what circumstance the plurals are being =

used.

Whether Okrand simply forgot about words like {DeSqIvDu'} I don't know, =

and it doesn't really matter. We know enough to say that we can't draw =

any firm conclusions about this subject without explicit guidance.

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