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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mu' chu' chabal tetlh!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Mar 29 11:01:57 2017
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pIw odor (n)
largh smell (sense odors) (v)
He' smell (emit odor) (v)
He'So' stink (v)
(KGT 86): The verb meaning "smell" -- that is, sense odors - is {largh}. T=
he word for "emit a smell" is {He'}. This does not necessarily imply a bad =
smell. Odors are not considered "good" or "bad"; they are just odors. There=
may be a subjective evaluation of the source of the odor, however. It is a=
compliment to suggest that someone smells like *rokeg* blood pie not becau=
se the smell itself is good, but rather because the food carries with it po=
sitive associations. On the other hand, it is most insulting to say that so=
meone smells like rotting *forshak*.
(KGT 85-86): From the Klingon point of view, it is not accurate to say tha=
t a particular food is sour; rather, it tastes and smells sour. That is, so=
urness is not an intrinsic quality of the food; it is a perception, the eff=
ect the food has upon the senses of smell and taste, the Klingon sense of s=
mell being particularly highly developed.
DaH vay' vIlarghlaH
Now I can smell something! CK
vay' DalarghDI' yIqaw
Remember the scent. (i.e. "Learn from your experiences") TKW
reH bang larghlu'
Love is always smelled ("A loved one is always smelled"). TKW
SumchoH mangghom 'Iw largh
The army closes in, smelling blood. PB
pa' 'elDI' Duj
'Iw HIq pIw qagh pIw je lularghlu'chu'
The smell of bloodwine and gagh
Filled the barge upon entering. PB
"Klingons have a highly developed sense of smell." (Data, TNG "Genesis")
"She must see the fire in your eyes. [...] Words come later. It is the scen=
t that first speaks of love." (Worf counseling Geordi, TNG "Transfiguration=
s")
B'Ellana burned some Klingon incense in her quarters; Janeway comments, "In=
teresting fragrance. I'm surprised it hasn't set off the environmental alar=
ms." (VOY "Nothing Human")
"That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." (Shakes=
peare, "Romeo and Juliet", quoted in TOS "By Any Other Name")
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad." (Spock to Android No=
rman, TOS "I, Mudd")
--Voragh
(Hey, it's what I do!)
On Behalf Of Felix Malmenbeck
=3D=3D WORD REQUEST MESSAGE =3D=3D
- sweat
Example sentences:
"Do fish sweat?"
"The dancer was sweating profusely."
"I'm covered in sweat."
"Sweat tastes salty."
"The corridors smell of sweat."
"The scent of sweat excites me."
It's interesting to note that we've had a word for "deodorant" (noSvagh) si=
nce the first edition of TKD, but still no word for sweat :P
...then again, knowing Klingons, sweat is probably one scent they *don't* w=
ant to get rid of.
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">pIw  =
; odor (n)
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">largh &n=
bsp; smell (sense odors) (v)<br>
He'  =
; smell (emit odor) (v)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">He'So' &n=
bsp; stink (v)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">(KGT 86): The verb meaning “=
;smell” -- that is, sense odors — is {largh}. The word for R=
20;emit a smell” is {He'}. This does not necessarily imply a bad smel=
l. Odors
are not considered "good" or "bad"; they are just odor=
s. There may be a subjective evaluation of the source of the odor, however.=
It is a compliment to suggest that someone smells like *<b>rokeg</b>* bloo=
d pie not because the smell itself is good, but rather
because the food carries with it positive associations. On the other hand,=
it is most insulting to say that someone smells like rotting *forshak*.<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><br>
(KGT 85-86): From the Klingon point of view, it is not accurate to sa=
y that a particular food is sour; rather, it tastes and smells sour. That i=
s, sourness is not an intrinsic quality of the food; it is a perception, th=
e effect the food has upon the senses
of smell and taste, the Klingon sense of smell being particularly highly d=
eveloped.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><br>
DaH vay' vIlarghlaH <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">Now I can smell something! CK<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">vay' DalarghDI' yIqaw
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">Remember the scent. (i.e. "Learn f=
rom your experiences") TKW<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">reH bang larghlu'
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">Love is always smelled ("A loved o=
ne is always smelled"). TKW
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">SumchoH mangghom 'Iw largh
<br>
The army closes in, smelling blood. PB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">pa' 'elDI' Duj
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"> 'Iw HIq pIw qagh pIw je lul=
arghlu'chu'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">The smell of bloodwine and gagh<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"> Filled the barge upon entering. =
PB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">"Klingons have a highly developed =
sense of smell." (Data, TNG "Genesis")<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">"She must see the fire in your eye=
s. […] Words come later. It is the scent that first speaks of love.&q=
uot; (Worf counseling Geordi, TNG "Transfigurations")<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">B'Ellana burned some Klingon incense in=
her quarters; Janeway comments, "Interesting fragrance. I'm surprised=
it hasn't set off the environmental alarms." (VOY
"Nothing Human")<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">“That which we call a rose by any=
other name would smell as sweet.” (Shakespeare, “Romeo and Jul=
iet”, quoted in TOS “By Any Other Name”)<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">“Logic is a wreath of pretty flow=
ers which smell bad.” (Spock to Android Norman, TOS “I, Mudd=
221;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">--Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">(Hey, it’s what I do!)<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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4.0pt">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri",sans-serif">On Behalf Of
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
sans-serif">Felix Malmenbeck<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-=
serif;color:black;background:white">=3D=3D WORD REQUEST MESSAGE =3D=3D</spa=
n><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><b=
r>
<br>
- sweat<br>
<br>
Example sentences:<br>
<br>
"Do fish sweat?"<br>
"The dancer was sweating profusely."<br>
"I'm covered in sweat."<br>
"Sweat tastes salty."<br>
"The corridors smell of sweat."<br>
"The scent of sweat excites me."<br>
<br>
It's interesting to note that we've had a word for "deodorant" (n=
oSvagh) since the first edition of TKD, but still no word for sweat :P<br>
...then again, knowing Klingons, sweat is probably one scent they *don't* w=
ant to get rid of.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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