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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mu' chu' chabal tetlh!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Tue Mar 21 18:28:22 2017
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>> {bIQ'a' 'ev tIng HeH}
>
> "border of the western ocean"? West-coast?
I'd translate it as "the ocean's western coast". So, for example, {'atlantIq bIQ'a' 'ev tIng HeH} would overlap with {'amerI'qa' SepjIjQa' chan bIQ'a' HeH}.
Useful canonical examples:
{veng chanDaq jIwam.}
= "I hunt east of the city."
{chan vengDaq jIwam.}
= "I hunt in the city to the east."
MO: The "city's east," meaning "the eastern part of the city," would make use of <yoS> "area, district": <veng chan yoS> (literally "city area-eastward district" or "city's eastward-area's district")."
Source: http://klingonska.org/canon/1999-11-21-news.txt
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From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of Lieven <levinius@gmx.de>
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Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mu' chu' chabal tetlh!
Am 21.03.2017 um 22:37 schrieb Jeremy Silver:
>> We already have /beach:/ *bIQ'a' HeH.* This will often work for /coast/
[...]
> We do? Please remind me of the source on this one.
Talk Now: Learn Klingon (Software, 2011)
> While we're discussing *bIQ'a' HeH*, and to confirm if I'd be using it
> correctly, how would you all interpret:
>
> {bIQ'a' 'ev tIng HeH}
"border of the western ocean"? West-coast?
>> > Don't know if Marc's painted himself into a corner with turning "row
>> > your boat" into "propel your ship", but a {vo'wI'} can mean a few
> things.
[...]
>> Did he translate that? I don't remember this. What is the source?
I don't think he translated that. This phrase comes from a comment by
KCD executive producer Keith Halper about the "Warriors Anthem":
"The literal translation is always skewed a bit, so if you send him
[Okrand] 'Row, row, row your boat,' you'll get back 'Propel, propel,
propel your craft.' "
See the full quote in the Wiki:
www.klingonwiki.net/En/WarriorsAnthem
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