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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mu' chu' chabal tetlh!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Tue Mar 21 10:33:52 2017
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:33:19 -0400
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On 3/21/2017 10:08 AM, Rhona Fenwick wrote:
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> ghItlhpu' naHQun, jatlh:
>
> > kiss v.
>
>
> Honestly, there seem to be a lot of people looking for this word when
> we've got a pretty good circumstantial case that Klingons just don't
> have this as a distinct part of their courtship behaviours.
>
> We do have {chop} "bite" as well as {rem} "suck" (compare the English
> slang term "sucking face"), which should pretty much cover the
> requisite actions beyond {wuSDu'chaj HotchuqmoH}.
A kiss is not a bite. People saying *chop* as an equivalent to /kiss/
drive me crazy. At least *rem* bears a resemblance to what's happening
in a kiss.
If the answer is "Klingons don't have a word for kiss," then this is
what I'd want to hear canonically. I don't like hearing fan
over-generalizations of what they've seen on screen to every aspect of a
Klingon's life. There was a great cover of /HolQeD,/ my favorite cover,
showing a Klingon man holding a Klingon baby very close and looking down
at it tenderly. Go ahead and tell me that no Klingon would ever do that,
or that no Klingon doing that would ever press their lips to the baby.
Or is everyone thoughtlessly equating kissing with a sexual or romantic act?
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/21/2017 10:08 AM, Rhona Fenwick
wrote:<br>
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<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">ghItlhpu' naHQun, jatlh:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">> kiss v.</span><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Honestly, there seem to be a lot
of people looking for this word when we've got a pretty
good circumstantial case that Klingons just don't have
this as a distinct part of their courtship behaviours.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">We do have {chop} "bite" as well
as {rem} "suck" (compare the English slang term "sucking
face"), which should pretty much cover the requisite
actions beyond {wuSDu'chaj HotchuqmoH}.</div>
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<p>A kiss is not a bite. People saying <b>chop</b> as an equivalent
to <i>kiss</i> drive me crazy. At least <b>rem</b> bears a
resemblance to what's happening in a kiss.</p>
<p>If the answer is "Klingons don't have a word for kiss," then this
is what I'd want to hear canonically. I don't like hearing fan
over-generalizations of what they've seen on screen to every
aspect of a Klingon's life. There was a great cover of <i>HolQeD,</i>
my favorite cover, showing a Klingon man holding a Klingon baby
very close and looking down at it tenderly. Go ahead and tell me
that no Klingon would ever do that, or that no Klingon doing that
would ever press their lips to the baby.</p>
<p>Or is everyone thoughtlessly equating kissing with a sexual or
romantic act?<br>
</p>
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