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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] mu' chu' chabal tetlh!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rhona Fenwick)
Tue Mar 21 10:15:25 2017
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ghItlhpu' Voragh, jatlh:
> Actually qep=92a=92 2016 produced something close to one of your desidera=
ta:
> magh Klingon plant that most closely resembles grass (n)
> magh yotlh lawn (n)
> So I would say *{magh tIq yotlh} =93field of long grass=94 for grassland=
, steppe, prairie,
> etc., though {Hatlh} might be better for open, uncultivated/unmanaged lan=
d.
Oh yes, I did know about those (and I'm grateful for your reminder of them!=
). I suppose I'm more thinking that we have {HuD} and {ngech} for hills and=
valleys, but for open flat land like a steppe or plain or prairie, I wasn'=
t sure if {yotlh} would be appropriate, since KGT seems to imply that it's =
a cultivated plot of land:
"The verb {yob} ("harvest") is used to refer to gathering up plants or plan=
t parts, whether from a field ({yotlh}) that has been sown or out in the wi=
ld." (KGT p.89)
I've been using {Hatlh} as a stopgap, but it'd be nice to know what the sem=
antic range is on these words.
QeS 'utlh
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<div>ghItlhpu' Voragh, jatlh:</div>
<div>> <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Actually qep=92a=92 2016 pr=
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<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">> </span><span style=3D"font-=
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lant that most closely resembles grass (n)</span></div>
<div>> magh yotlh lawn (n)</div>
<div> > <span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">So I would say *{magh=
tIq yotlh} =93field of long grass=94 for grassland, steppe, prairie,</span=
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<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">> etc., though {Hatlh} might =
be better for open, uncultivated/unmanaged land.</span></div>
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</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">Oh yes, I did know about those (and I=
'm grateful for your reminder of them!). I suppose I'm more thinking t=
hat we have {HuD} and {ngech} for hills and valleys, but for open flat land=
like a steppe or plain or prairie, I wasn't
sure if {yotlh} would be appropriate, since KGT seems to imply t=
hat it's a cultivated plot of land:</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">"<span>The verb {yob} ("har=
vest") is used to refer to gathering up plants or plant parts, whether=
from a field ({yotlh}) that has been sown or out in the wild." (KGT p=
.89)</span></span></div>
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</span></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><span>I've been using {Hatlh} as a st=
opgap, but it'd be nice to know what the semantic range is on these words.<=
/span></span></div>
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<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><span>QeS 'utlh</span></span></div>
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