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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] -lI': intentional or not?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Sun Feb 26 07:14:40 2017
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Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 07:14:04 -0500
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On 2/26/2017 6:32 AM, Lieven wrote:
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> TKD gives the example {chollI'} "it (the torpedo) is getting closer"
>
> "when it is known that the missile has been aimed at that target."
>
> This does confirm that the thing does not itself have the intention to
> do what it does, a torpedoe does not "think" or "intend" to do what it
> does. The speaker does also not "intend" what is happening. He is
> neutral as describing what is going on: {chollI' peng} is to me the
> same as {pumlI' nagh}.
The restrictive side of the argument says that /someone/ fired the
torpedo and set its goal intentionally, and it is the firer's
perspective that is generating the *-lI'.* Do you disagree with this
argument?
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/26/2017 6:32 AM, Lieven wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:b8b45058-2385-362f-8fbc-c631cc007042@gmx.de"
type="cite"><br>
TKD gives the example {chollI'} "it (the torpedo) is getting
closer"
<br>
<br>
"when it is known that the missile has been aimed at that target."
<br>
<br>
This does confirm that the thing does not itself have the
intention to do what it does, a torpedoe does not "think" or
"intend" to do what it does. The speaker does also not "intend"
what is happening. He is neutral as describing what is going on:
{chollI' peng} is to me the same as {pumlI' nagh}.
</blockquote>
<br>
<p>The restrictive side of the argument says that <i>someone</i>
fired the torpedo and set its goal intentionally, and it is the
firer's perspective that is generating the <b>-lI'.</b> Do you
disagree with this argument?<br>
</p>
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