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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Rendered fat
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Anthony Appleyard)
Sat Feb 18 14:19:29 2017
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And similarly, in Latin, adding 'r' turns "videmus" = "we see" into "videmur" = "we are seen" by reassigning the "-mus" suffix to mean the one seen and not the one seeing. Klingon has no nominative/accusative case difference, so has a simpler scenario.
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From : sustel@trimboli.name
Date : 18/02/2017 - 14:57 (GMTST)
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Subject : Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Rendered fat
The exact sentence TKD uses to explain the indefinite subject
prefixes is this: "Those prefixes which normally indicate first-
or second-person subject and third-person singular object (vI-,
Da-, wI-, bo-) are used to indicate first- or second-person
object." TKD is telling us that the object of a verb with -lu'
remains an object with -lu' there. The prefixes are being
reassigned; they no longer have their old roles when -lu'
is used. There is no promotion of object to subject.
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<span> </span><span></span>And similarly, in Latin, adding 'r' turns "videmus" = "we see" into "videmur" = <span>"we are seen" by reassigning the "-mus" suffix to mean the one seen and not the one seeing.</span><span></span><span></span><span></span> Klingon has no nominative/accusative case difference, so has a simpler scenario.<br><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left:15px;">----Original message----<br>From : sustel@trimboli.name<br>Date : 18/02/2017 - 14:57 (GMTST)<br>To : tlhingan-hol@lists.kli.org<br>Subject : Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Rendered fat<br><br>
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<p>The exact sentence TKD uses to explain the indefinite subject
prefixes is this: "Those prefixes which normally indicate first-
or second-person subject and third-person singular object (<b>vI-,
Da-, wI-, bo-</b>) are used to indicate first- or second-person
object." TKD is telling us that the object of a verb with <b>-lu'</b>
remains an object with <b>-lu'</b> there. The prefixes are being
reassigned; they no longer have their old roles when <b>-lu'</b>
is used. There is no promotion of object to subject.</p>
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