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[tlhIngan Hol] KLBC - How to say "I like to do/doing something"
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Thu Feb 9 07:31:56 2017
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Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 13:31:51 +0100
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Hello!
I've been wondering, what's the correct way to express liking / disliking
an activity?
For example, saying:
"I like to cook"
or "The Vulcan doesn't like to fight"
We have some examples of <par> and <parHa'> being used with nouns or
pronouns but I can't find any canon source where they apply to verbs.
Do you use {'e'} or nothing in those cases?
As in:
<jIvut vIparHa'> vs <jIvut =E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 vIparHa'>
<Suv par vulqangan> vs <Suv =E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 par vulqangan>
My "feeling" would be to use no =E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 , similar to the constr=
uction with
<want> (neH), because 'e' is the equivalent of "that", so using it would
mean "I like that I cook" / "The Vulcan doesn't like that he fights",
implying that the cooking/fighting is actually happening now, instead of
stating "I like cooking in general"/"the Vulcan doesn't like fighting in
general" (but I'm not necessarily cooking right now and the Vulcan is not
fighting right now either).
What do you think?
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tyle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I've been wondering, wh=
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=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"I like to co=
ok"</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif">or "The Vulcan doesn't like to fight"</div><=
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"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif">We have some examples of <par> and <parHa'> =
being used with nouns or pronouns but I can't find any canon source whe=
re they apply to verbs.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
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thing in those cases?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">As in:</div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default"><font face=3D"times new roman, serif"><jIvut vIparHa'> =
vs <jIvut =E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 vIparHa'></font></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default"><font face=3D"times new roman, serif"><Suv par vulqangan=
> vs <Suv =E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 par vulqangan></font></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-=
serif">My "feeling" would be to use no =E2=80=99e=E2=80=99 , simi=
lar to the construction with <want> (neH), because 'e' is the=
equivalent of "that", so using it would mean "I like that I=
cook" / "The Vulcan doesn't like that he fights", imply=
ing that the cooking/fighting is actually happening now, instead of stating=
"I like cooking in general"/"the Vulcan doesn't like fi=
ghting in general" (but I'm not necessarily cooking right now and =
the Vulcan is not fighting right now either).</div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">What do=
you think?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
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