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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] movie theatre
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Jan 25 10:13:30 2017
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WRT T.V. episode, movie, etc., instead of forms with {HaSta} "visual displa=
y (on monitor)" I've more often seen {jIH} "monitor (device)" and {jIH'a'} =
"main viewscreen, main viewer" used. E.g.:
*{jIHlut} episode (TV)
*{jIH lut} episode (TV)
*{jIH'a' lut} movie
*{jIHlut'a'} movie, film
*{jIHluttlhegh} series, mini-series (TV)
FYI here's the full quote for {muchpa'}:
(MO to De'vID, 3/2015 < FOTSN): {muchpa'} is fine for "theater" (or "theat=
re"), but a better translation might be "auditorium". Maltz agreed with you=
r observation that it's kind of close to {puchpa'}, but he said that, given=
his viewing of Terran plays and movies, that might be apt and it didn't bo=
ther him at all. If "Bloomsbury Theatre" refers to the whole building - aud=
itorium, lobby, dressing rooms, {puchpa'mey}) - not just the room where the=
performance takes place, he'd go with {much qach}.
much presentation (n),
much present, perform (music) (v)
--Voragh
On Behalf Of Felix Malmenbeck
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 4:29 PM
I don't believe there's any canonical name for either, but people commonly =
refer to movies - as well as episodes and shorter videos - as {HaSta much} =
("visual display presentation"). For a feature film, you might consider {Ha=
Sta much'a'} ("visual display greater-presentation").
Marc Okrand has translated {muchpa'} ("presentation-room") as "theatre" in =
the sense of "auditorium", which is to say the room in which a presentation=
is viewed. However, a "theatre" as in a whole building would be a {much qa=
ch} ("presentation building").
Source: http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/FestivalOfTheSpokenNerd [=3D =
FOTSN]
So, I'd describe a movie theatre building as a {HaSta much qach}, and say t=
hat most of these buildings contain several {HaSta muchpa'mey}.
________________________________
Juliana Bukoski <jfbukoski@gmail.com<mailto:jfbukoski@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 23:11
Are there words for "movie" and "movie theatre"?
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Courier">WRT T.V. episode=
, movie, etc., instead of forms with {HaSta} “visual display (on moni=
tor)” I’ve more often seen {jIH} “monitor (device)”=
and {<b>jIH'a'}</b> “main viewscreen, main viewer” used. =
E.g.:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style=3D"position:relative;top:-3.0pt;mso-text-raise:3.0pt">*</span><=
b><i>{jIHlut} episode</i>=
(TV)<br>
</b><span style=3D"position:relative;top:-3.0pt;mso-text-raise:3.0pt">*</sp=
an><b><i>{jIH lut} episode</i> =
(TV)<br>
<br>
</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Courier">*</span><b><i><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:Courier">{jIH'a' lut} &nbs=
p; movie</span></i><br>
</b><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:Courier">*{jIHlut’a’} =
; movie, film</span></i></b><b><span style=
=3D"font-family:Courier">
</span><br>
<br>
</b><b><i><span style=3D"font-family:Courier">*{jIHluttlhegh}</span></i></b=
><i><span style=3D"font-family:Courier"> series, mini-se=
ries</span></i><span style=3D"font-family:Courier"> (TV)<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Courier">FYI here’s=
the full quote for {muchpa’}:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Courier"><o:p> </o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(MO to De'vID, 3/2015 < FOTSN):<b> {<span s=
tyle=3D"color:red">muchpa'}</span></b> is fine for “<i>theater”=
</i> (or “<i>theatre”</i>), but a better translation might be &=
#8220;<i>auditorium”</i>. Maltz agreed with your observation that it'=
s kind
of close to {<b>puchpa'}</b>, but he said that, given his viewing of Terra=
n plays and movies, that might be apt and it didn't bother him at all. If &=
quot;Bloomsbury Theatre" refers to the whole building - auditorium, lo=
bby, dressing rooms, {<b>puchpa'mey}</b>)
- not just the room where the performance takes place, he'd go with {<b><s=
pan style=3D"color:red">much qach}</span>.</b>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:Courier">much</span></=
b><span style=3D"font-family:Courier">  =
; presentation (n),
<br>
<b>much</b> &=
nbsp; present, perform (music) (v)<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Courier"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-s=
erif;color:#44546A">--Voragh<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri",sans-serif">On Behalf Of
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
sans-serif">Felix Malmenbeck<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 24, 2017 4:29 PM<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I=
don't believe there's any canonical name for either, but people commonly r=
efer to movies - as well as episodes and shorter videos - as {HaSta much} (=
"visual display presentation"). For a feature
film, you might consider {HaSta much'a'} ("visual display greater-pre=
sentation").<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><=
o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">M=
arc Okrand has translated {muchpa'} ("presentation-room") as &quo=
t;theatre" in the sense of "auditorium", which is to say the=
room in which a presentation is viewed. However, a "theatre" as =
in a whole
building would be a {much qach} ("presentation building").<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><=
o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-=
serif;color:black">Source:
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r:#44546A"> </span></i></b><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri&qu=
ot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a href=3D"http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Festiv=
alOfTheSpokenNerd">http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/FestivalOfTheSpokenNerd</a=
></span><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44=
546A">
[=3D </span>FOTSN]<span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-seri=
f;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><=
o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">S=
o, I'd describe a movie theatre building as a {HaSta much qach}, and say th=
at most of these buildings contain several {HaSta muchpa'mey}.</span><span =
style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><=
o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:black">Juliana Bukoski <<a href=3D"mailto:j=
fbukoski@gmail.com">jfbukoski@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 24, 2017 23:11<br>
<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",sans-=
serif;color:#212121"> Are there words for "movie" and "=
movie theatre"?</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",s=
ans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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