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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] More paq'batlh
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Cote)
Fri Jan 6 04:29:42 2017
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From: Brian Cote <wearetheinformation00@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 04:29:39 -0500
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Thanks. And I'm glad I asked about that sentence. Somehow in the last
month my brain turned {-DI'} into "when."
QImSIr
On Friday, January 6, 2017, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6 January 2017 at 03:11, Brian Cote <wearetheinformation00@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Hello. I have a couple quick questions about a passage from the
> paq'batlh.
> >
> > {tlhIngan wo' nur ghob je
> > HoSmoH quvvam
> > che'DI' molor nur ghob je pujchoHpu'}
> >
> > With it, I restore pride and values
> > Of the Klingon Empire, for under Molor,
> > They have grown weak and faint.
> >
> > (paq'raD 16:7-9)
> >
> > Shouldn't the third line read:
> >
> > che'DI' molor, pujchoHpu' nur ghob je
>
> Probably.
>
> > Or am I missing something?
>
> Maybe it reads:
> che'DI' molor nur ghob je, pujchoHpu'.
>
> (But, yeah, I think {nur ghob je} should be the subject of {puj}, too.)
>
> > And a quick time question. In the third sentence, this particular
> > combination of {DI'-choH-pu'} means that in the time span of Molor's
> reign,
> > the weakening of {nur} and {ghob} started and then finished, correct? If
> so,
> > I find this particular usage of grammar very cool.
>
> {-DI'} means "as soon as", not "during".
>
> As soon as Molor reigned, pride and values became weak (whereas they
> weren't weak before), and this was completed.
>
> --
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Thanks. And I'm glad I asked about that sentence. Somehow in the last m=
onth=C2=A0my brain turned {-DI'} into "when."=C2=A0<div><br><=
/div><div>QImSIr<br><br>On Friday, January 6, 2017, De'vID <<a href=
=3D"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<=
br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 6 January 2017 at 03:11, Brian Cote &l=
t;<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, 'cvml', 'wearet=
heinformation00@gmail.com')">wearetheinformation00@gmail.com</a>> wr=
ote:<br>
> Hello. I have a couple quick questions about a passage from the paq=
9;batlh.<br>
><br>
> {tlhIngan wo' nur ghob je<br>
> HoSmoH quvvam<br>
> che'DI' molor nur ghob je pujchoHpu'}<br>
><br>
> With it, I restore pride and values<br>
> Of the Klingon Empire, for under Molor,<br>
> They have grown weak and faint.<br>
><br>
> (paq'raD 16:7-9)<br>
><br>
> Shouldn't the third line read:<br>
><br>
> che'DI' molor, pujchoHpu' nur ghob je<br>
<br>
Probably.<br>
<br>
> Or am I missing something?<br>
<br>
Maybe it reads:<br>
che'DI' molor nur ghob je, pujchoHpu'.<br>
<br>
(But, yeah, I think {nur ghob je} should be the subject of {puj}, too.)<br>
<br>
> And a quick time question. In the third sentence, this particular<br>
> combination of {DI'-choH-pu'} means that in the time span of M=
olor's reign,<br>
> the weakening of {nur} and {ghob} started and then finished, correct? =
If so,<br>
> I find this particular usage of grammar very cool.<br>
<br>
{-DI'} means "as soon as", not "during".<br>
<br>
As soon as Molor reigned, pride and values became weak (whereas they<br>
weren't weak before), and this was completed.<br>
<br>
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De'vID<br>
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