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[tlhIngan Hol] bahuvrihi (was Re: Interesting time stamp; etc)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alan Anderson)
Thu Jan 5 05:07:51 2017

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From: Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 05:07:24 -0500
To: Klingon language email discussion forum <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>,
	Anthony Appleyard <a.appleyard@btinternet.com>
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On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Anthony Appleyard <
a.appleyard@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Does Klingon language allow bahuvrihi compounds?
>

I don't see why that sort of metaphor would be forbidden in general. The
Klingon Christmas Carol play opens with a passage including the phrase
"dead as a {HIp Doq}", (it's translated as "red shirt"), which is exactly
the kind of usage you're talking about.


But I also don't see how {paq'batlh} fits the idea. The in-universe
explanation of the anomalous apostrophe is that it's a remnant of the older
pronunciation/spelling seen in the first part of the book. Decoding that
"ancient" text gives a lot of insight into the "ancient" word order and
affixes.

-- ghunchu'wI'

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
hu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Anthony Appleyard <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:a.appleyard@btinternet.com" target=3D"_blank">a.appleyard@btinte=
rnet.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=
=3D":px" class=3D"a3s aXjCH m1596d3767999421c">Does Klingon language allow =
bahuvrihi compounds?<br></div></blockquote></div><br>I don&#39;t see why th=
at sort of metaphor would be forbidden in general. The Klingon Christmas Ca=
rol play opens with a passage including the phrase &quot;dead as a {HIp Doq=
}&quot;, (it&#39;s translated as &quot;red shirt&quot;), which is exactly t=
he kind of usage you&#39;re talking about.<br><br><br>But I also don&#39;t =
see how {paq&#39;batlh} fits the idea. The in-universe explanation of the a=
nomalous apostrophe is that it&#39;s a remnant of the older pronunciation/s=
pelling seen in the first part of the book. Decoding that &quot;ancient&quo=
t; text gives a lot of insight into the &quot;ancient&quot; word order and =
affixes.<br><br>-- ghunchu&#39;wI&#39;</div></div>

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