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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Quvar, QISmaS cake Davutta''a'

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qurgh lungqIj)
Wed Jan 4 13:47:27 2017

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From: qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 13:28:50 -0500
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On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 6:07 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:

> qurgh,
>
> since this will probably be the last post I am writing here, I will
> address it to you since you are the moderator of this list.
>

I've read your message, and as the moderator of this list I will simply say:

No one is singling you out, or picking on you. I understand you feel that
way, but all the active members here have given their all to help you learn
the language. If the group was as tight-knit and anti-outsider as you
described, then you wouldn't have been able to spend the last 14 months
here being taught the language for free. I just ask that you, like everyone
else, follow the conventions of the list.

You do have a tendency to go into areas of the language that are not
defined in the canon texts you have read, this leads to a lot of "No, it's
said like this ...", or "we don't know...", posts from members who have
already been through that area. Often, instead of heeding their advice, you
go off on your own tangent, making up things that few others can
understand. This leads to more "No" posts. When people suggest you study
canon texts to learn more, you dismiss them and tell everyone those texts
confuse you. My advice would be to read those texts and post here when
something confuses you. Not only does it help others that might have been
confused by it but didn't feel like they should ask the question (or didn't
know how), but it also puts a copy of the answer into the KLI archives,
which are used by a lot of people to find out what's been done in the past.
Asking questions about the language helps everyone learn more.

I won't be made happy by you leaving the group. I don't think anyone here
will be happy because of that. What would make me happy is for us to move
passed this whole silly "punctuation" thing and get back to the fun of
learning, studying, and speaking tlhIngan Hol.

qurgh

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On W=
ed, Jan 4, 2017 at 6:07 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">qurgh,<br>
<br>
since this will probably be the last post I am writing here, I will<br>
address it to you since you are the moderator of this list.<br></blockquote=
><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve read your message, and as the moderator of th=
is list I will simply say:<br><br>No one is singling you out, or picking on=
 you. I understand you feel that way, but all the active members here have =
given their all to help you learn the language. If the group was as tight-k=
nit and anti-outsider as you described, then you wouldn&#39;t have been abl=
e to spend the last 14 months here being taught the language for free. I ju=
st ask that you, like everyone else, follow the conventions of the list.=C2=
=A0</div><div><br></div><div>You do have a tendency to go into areas of the=
 language that are not defined in the canon texts you have read, this leads=
 to a lot of &quot;No, it&#39;s said like this ...&quot;, or &quot;we don&#=
39;t know...&quot;, posts from members who have already been through that a=
rea. Often, instead of heeding their advice, you go off on your own tangent=
, making up things that few others can understand. This leads to more &quot=
;No&quot; posts. When people suggest you study canon texts to learn more, y=
ou dismiss them and tell everyone those texts confuse you. My advice would =
be to read those texts and post here when something confuses you. Not only =
does it help others that might have been confused by it but didn&#39;t feel=
 like they should ask the question (or didn&#39;t know how), but it also pu=
ts a copy of the answer into the KLI archives, which are used by a lot of p=
eople to find out what&#39;s been done in the past. Asking questions about =
the language helps everyone learn more.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I wo=
n&#39;t be made happy by you leaving the group. I don&#39;t think anyone he=
re will be happy because of that. What would make me happy is for us to mov=
e passed this whole silly &quot;punctuation&quot; thing and get back to the=
 fun of learning, studying, and speaking tlhIngan Hol.=C2=A0</div><div><br>=
</div><div>qurgh</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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