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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Quvar, QISmaS cake Davutta''a'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alan Anderson)
Tue Jan 3 18:17:27 2017
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From: Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 14:37:41 -0500
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On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 12:32 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> because I do want to help beginners, from now on I will put each
> sentence in its own line, and use curly brackets to single it out
> according to tkd. and if a beginner wants to discuss any sentence, I
> will be happy to reply.
>
tlhuHbogh jatlhwI' DaDaQo'chugh, pagh DaQaH.
not {} Deghmey lo' tlhIngan Hol mu'ghom. not Del. not qel. mu'mey Hol
'angmeH, pat pIm lo'.
mu'tlheghmeylIj poj je po'wI' 'e' Dalajqang'a'? bIDubtaHmeH, QaghmeylIj
DaSovnIS.
1) You're not helping anyone by refusing to indicate pauses and intonation
in your Klingon sentences.
2) Curly brackets are neither used nor mentioned in TKD. We use them here
because we want to be able to indicate Klingon words and phrases in the
midst of English, and plain text email does not support boldface emphasis.
3) Are you also willing to discuss your sentences with experts? You still
often make beginner's mistakes like using {-chugh} only on the first of
conjoined clauses, or choosing the noun suffix {-vaD} when the verb suffix
{-meH} would be more appropriate, or fixating on a direct translation using
a nominalized verb instead of using the verb itself.
If you continue to dismiss advice from the skilled longtime speakers of
Klingon, your progress will probably stagnate and you will probably never
become one yourself.
-- ghunchu'wI'
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
ue, Jan 3, 2017 at 12:32 PM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div id=3D":147" class=3D"a3=
s aXjCH m1596563bb158c17c">because I do want to help beginners, from now on=
I will put each<br>
sentence in its own line, and use curly brackets to single it out<br>
according to tkd. and if a beginner wants to discuss any sentence, I<br>
will be happy to reply.=C2=A0</div></blockquote></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br>tlhuHbogh jatlhwI' DaDaQo'chugh, pagh DaQaH.</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra">not {} Deghmey lo' tlhIngan Hol mu'ghom. not De=
l. not qel. mu'mey Hol 'angmeH, pat pIm lo'.<br>mu'tlheghme=
ylIj poj je po'wI' 'e' Dalajqang'a'? bIDubtaHmeH, Q=
aghmeylIj DaSovnIS.<br><br></div>1) You're not helping anyone by refusi=
ng to indicate pauses and intonation in your Klingon sentences.</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">2) Curly brackets=
are neither used nor mentioned in TKD. We use them here because we want to=
be able to indicate Klingon words and phrases in the midst of English, and=
plain text email does not support boldface emphasis.<br><br>3) Are you als=
o willing to discuss your sentences with experts? You still often make begi=
nner's mistakes like using {-chugh} only on the first of conjoined clau=
ses, or choosing the noun suffix {-vaD} when the verb suffix {-meH} would b=
e more appropriate, or fixating on a direct translation using a nominalized=
verb instead of using the verb itself.<br><br>If you continue to dismiss a=
dvice from the skilled longtime speakers of Klingon, your progress will pro=
bably stagnate and you will probably never become one yourself.<br><br>-- g=
hunchu'wI'</div></div>
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