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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] War related expressions
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Fri Dec 30 09:08:06 2016
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:08:01 +0200
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however, the question now arises:
because {Qap} can take an object, we can say {noH wIQap}. but can the {luj}
take an object as well ? because if it cannot take an object, then we can't
say {noH wIluj}, and we can only say things like {vanDI' noH, maluj}.
so, can the {luj} take an object ?
qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
On 30 Dec 2016 3:11 pm, "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30 December 2016 at 13:38, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> > DevID:
> >> {noH QapmeH wo' Qaw'lu'chugh yay chavbe'lu' 'ej wo'
> >> choqmeH may' DoHlu'chugh lujbe'lu'.}
> >
> > the {noH QapmeH} is indeed pretty straightforward for "to win a war", but
> > does the {lujbe'lu'} mean that we can say {noH lujlu'} for {someone lost
> the
> > war} ?
> >
> > also, are the {noH Suv} and {noH ghob} acceptable, for "to fight a war" ?
>
> KGT p.47:
> <Thus, it is possible to say {noH ghob} or {noH Suv}, both meaning
> "He/she fights a war," or {may' ghob} or {may' Suv}, meaning "He/she
> fights a battle," but it is not normally acceptable to say {veS ghob}
> ("He/she fights a warfare") or {vIq Suv} ("He/she fights a combat").>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">however, the question now arises:<div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto">because {Qap} can take an object, we can say {noH wIQ=
ap}. but can the {luj} take an object as well ? because if it cannot take a=
n object, then we can't say {noH wIluj}, and we can only say things lik=
e {vanDI' noH, maluj}.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">so, can the {luj} take an object ?<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_s=
ignature" dir=3D"auto">qunnoH jan puqloD<br>ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIng=
eHta'<br></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On 30 Dec 2016 3:11 pm, "De'vID" <<a href=3D=
"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br =
type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 30 December 2016 at =
13:38, mayqel qunenoS <<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmai=
l.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> DevID:<br>
>> {noH QapmeH wo' Qaw'lu'chugh yay chavbe'lu' &#=
39;ej wo'<br>
>> choqmeH may' DoHlu'chugh lujbe'lu'.}<br>
><br>
> the {noH QapmeH} is indeed pretty straightforward for "to win a w=
ar", but<br>
> does the {lujbe'lu'} mean that we can say {noH lujlu'} for=
{someone lost the<br>
> war} ?<br>
><br>
> also, are the {noH Suv} and {noH ghob} acceptable, for "to fight =
a war" ?<br>
<br>
KGT p.47:<br>
<Thus, it is possible to say {noH ghob} or {noH Suv}, both meaning<br>
"He/she fights a war," or {may' ghob} or {may' Suv}, mean=
ing "He/she<br>
fights a battle," but it is not normally acceptable to say {veS ghob}<=
br>
("He/she fights a warfare") or {vIq Suv} ("He/she fights a c=
ombat").><br>
<br>
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De'vID<br>
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