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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] War related expressions

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Fri Dec 30 07:38:30 2016

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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:38:25 +0200
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DevID:
> {noH QapmeH wo' Qaw'lu'chugh yay chavbe'lu' 'ej wo'
> choqmeH may' DoHlu'chugh lujbe'lu'.}

the {noH QapmeH} is indeed pretty straightforward for "to win a war", but
does the {lujbe'lu'} mean that we can say {noH lujlu'} for {someone lost
the war} ?

also, are the {noH Suv} and {noH ghob} acceptable, for "to fight a war" ?

qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

On 30 Dec 2016 2:26 pm, "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Dec 30, 2016 12:52, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> recently, we said that we can write {may' Suv} and {may' ghob} for "to
> fight a battle".
>
> two questions:
>
> if we want to say "fight a war", are the {noH Suv} and {noH ghob}
> acceptable ?
>
> and how do we say "win a war/battle" and "lose a war/battle" ?
>
>
> {noH QapmeH wo' Qaw'lu'chugh yay chavbe'lu' 'ej wo' choqmeH may'
> DoHlu'chugh lujbe'lu'.}
> "Destroying an empire to win a war is no victory, and ending a battle to
> save an empire is no defeat." -- TKW p.211
>
> --
> De'vID
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">DevID:<div dir=3D"auto">&gt;=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">{noH QapmeH wo&#39; Qaw&#39;lu&#39;chugh=
 yay chavbe&#39;lu&#39; &#39;ej wo&#39;=C2=A0</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">&gt; choqmeH may=
&#39; DoHlu&#39;chugh lujbe&#39;lu&#39;.}</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><fo=
nt face=3D"sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:13.696px"><br></span></font=
></div><div dir=3D"auto">the {noH QapmeH} is indeed pretty straightforward =
for &quot;to win a war&quot;, but does the {lujbe&#39;lu&#39;} mean that we=
 can say {noH lujlu&#39;} for {someone lost the war} ?</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">also, are the {noH Suv} and {noH ghob} accep=
table, for &quot;to fight a war&quot; ?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">qunnoH jan puqloD<div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" di=
r=3D"auto">ghoghwIj HablI&#39;vo&#39; vIngeHta&#39;<br></div></div></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 30 Dec 2016 2:26=
 pm, &quot;De&#39;vID&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">=
de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature=
" dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">On Dec 30, 2016 12:52, &quot;mayqel qunenoS&quot; &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"m_-37546571540861=
63352quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">recently, we said that we can write {may&#39; Su=
v} and {may&#39; ghob} for &quot;to fight a battle&quot;.<div dir=3D"auto">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto">two questions:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto">if we want to say &quot;fight a war&quot;, are the {noH =
Suv} and {noH ghob} acceptable ?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">and how do we say &quot;win a war/battle&quot; and &quot;lose a w=
ar/battle&quot; ?</div><div dir=3D"auto"></div></div></blockquote></div></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=
=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">{noH QapmeH wo&#39; Qaw&#39;lu&#39;chugh yay ch=
avbe&#39;lu&#39; &#39;ej wo&#39; choqmeH may&#39; DoHlu&#39;chugh lujbe&#39=
;lu&#39;.}</div><div dir=3D"auto">&quot;Destroying an empire to win a war i=
s no victory, and ending a battle to save an empire is no defeat.&quot; -- =
TKW p.211</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">--=C2=A0</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">De&#39;vID</div></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><bl=
ockquote class=3D"m_-3754657154086163352quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto"><br></div></d=
iv></div></blockquote></div></div></div>
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