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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: De' QulwI'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Thu Dec 29 15:38:34 2016
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Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 22:38:28 +0200
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voragh:
> See Okrand=E2=80=99s note on this in *HolQeD* 5.2.
Since I don't have HolQeD, could you post here this article ?
qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
On 29 Dec 2016 10:21 pm, "DloraH" <seruq@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> In the cities I've lived in, the public library system had more than one
> building. There were several paq nojwI' qach scattered around the city.
> I think paq nojwI' tum refers to that overall collection of buildings
> that work together to make up the "Public Library" that most cities
> have.
> I think he included "public" in parentheses because I'm think a private
> library would probably be just one building, and thus wouldn't need a
> separate "agency".
>
>
> - DloraH
>
>
> On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 18:49 +0000, Terrence Donnelly wrote:
> > Speaking as a librarian, I was thrilled to see that these terms exist; =
I
> missed them initially, somehow.
> > To me, the {paq nojwI' qach} is the literal building housing the books
> and the staff, while the {tum} refers to the entity more abstractly. If y=
ou
> said, "I'll check the Library and see if they have that" and you used you=
r
> phone app or the on-line catalog, it would be the {tum} you are accessing=
,
> but not the {qach}. If you are talking about visiting the library, I don'=
t
> see much difference. I also don't see how {tum} implies "public", but
> that's how it's glossed, so be it.
> >
> > BTW, I would qualify {De' QulwI'} as not just "librarian", but
> specifically "research librarian". In fact, as the term stands, it could
> refer to anyone in the data analysis or research field. {paq nojwI'} is
> much more appropriate for what I do all day.
> > ter'eS
> >
> >
> > From: "Michael Roney, Jr." <nahqun@gmail.com>
> > To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 12:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: De' QulwI'
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
> wrote:
> > > Also from qepHom 2016:
> > >
> > > paq nojwI' qach library (building) (n)
> > > paq nojwI' tum library (public) (n)
> > >
> >
> > Do we know what the difference between libraries is?
> >
> >
> > --
> > ~Michael Roney, Jr.
> > Freelance Translator
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<div dir=3D"auto">voragh:<div dir=3D"auto">>=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:courier;font-size:13.696px">See Okrand=E2=80=99s note on this in=C2=A0=
</span><i style=3D"font-family:courier;font-size:13.696px">HolQeD</i><span =
style=3D"font-family:courier;font-size:13.696px">=C2=A05.2.</span></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"courier"><span style=3D"font-size:13.696px"><b=
r></span></font></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signat=
ure" dir=3D"auto">Since I don't have HolQeD, could you post here this a=
rticle ?</div><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">qunnoH jan puqloD<br=
>ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'<br></div></div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 29 Dec 2016 10:21 pm, &q=
uot;DloraH" <<a href=3D"mailto:seruq@bellsouth.net">seruq@bellsouth=
.net</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
In the cities I've lived in, the public library system had more than on=
e<br>
building.=C2=A0 There were several paq nojwI' qach scattered around the=
city.<br>
I think paq nojwI' tum refers to that overall collection of buildings<b=
r>
that work together to make up the "Public Library" that most citi=
es<br>
have.<br>
I think he included "public" in parentheses because I'm think=
a private<br>
library would probably be just one building, and thus wouldn't need a<b=
r>
separate "agency".<br>
<br>
<br>
- DloraH<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, 2016-12-29 at 18:49 +0000, Terrence Donnelly wrote:<br>
> Speaking as a librarian, I was thrilled to see that these terms exist;=
I missed them initially, somehow.<br>
> To me, the {paq nojwI' qach} is the literal building housing the b=
ooks and the staff, while the {tum} refers to the entity more abstractly. I=
f you said, "I'll check the Library and see if they have that"=
; and you used your phone app or the on-line catalog, it would be the {tum}=
you are accessing, but not the {qach}. If you are talking about visiting t=
he library, I don't see much difference. I also don't see how {tum}=
implies "public", but that's how it's glossed, so be it.=
<br>
><br>
> BTW, I would qualify {De' QulwI'} as not just "librarian&=
quot;, but specifically "research librarian". In fact, as the ter=
m stands, it could refer to anyone in the data analysis or research field. =
{paq nojwI'} is much more appropriate for what I do all day.<br>
> ter'eS<br>
><br>
><br>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0From: "Michael Roney, Jr." <<a =
href=3D"mailto:nahqun@gmail.com">nahqun@gmail.com</a>><br>
>=C2=A0 To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <<a href=3D"mailto:tlhingan-hol=
@kli.org">tlhingan-hol@kli.org</a>><br>
>=C2=A0 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 12:38 PM<br>
>=C2=A0 Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: De' Qul=
wI'<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Steven Boozer <<a href=3D"mailto:s=
boozer@uchicago.edu">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> > Also from qepHom 2016:<br>
> ><br>
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0paq nojwI' qach=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0library=
(building) (n)<br>
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0paq nojwI' tum=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 library (public) (n)<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> Do we know what the difference between libraries is?<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> ~Michael Roney, Jr.<br>
> Freelance Translator<br>
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