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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: De' QulwI'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Terrence Donnelly)
Thu Dec 29 13:49:32 2016
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From: Terrence Donnelly <terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net>
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Speaking as a librarian, I was thrilled to see that these terms exist; I mi=
ssed them initially, somehow.
To me, the {paq nojwI' qach} is the literal building housing the books and =
the staff, while the {tum} refers to the entity more abstractly. If you sai=
d, "I'll check the Library and see if they have that" and you used your pho=
ne app or the on-line catalog, it would be the {tum} you are accessing, but=
not the {qach}. If you are talking about visiting the library, I don't see=
much difference. I also don't see how {tum} implies "public", but that's h=
ow it's glossed, so be it.
BTW, I would qualify {De' QulwI'} as not just "librarian", but specifically=
"research librarian". In fact, as the term stands, it could refer to anyon=
e in the data analysis or research field. {paq nojwI'} is much more appropr=
iate for what I do all day.
ter'eS
From: "Michael Roney, Jr." <nahqun@gmail.com>
To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>=20
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: De' QulwI'
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On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote=
:
> Also from qepHom 2016:
>
> =C2=A0 paq nojwI' qach =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 library (building) (n)
> =C2=A0 paq nojwI' tum =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0library (public) (n)
>
Do we know what the difference between libraries is?
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Freelance Translator
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>Speaking as a librarian, I was thrilled to see that these terms exist; I m=
issed them initially, somehow.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483036832=
939_5343"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483036832939_5282">To me,=
the {paq nojwI' qach} is the literal building housing the books and the st=
aff, while the {tum} refers to the entity more abstractly. If you said, "I'=
ll check the Library and see if they have that" and you used your phone app=
or the on-line catalog, it would be the {tum} you are accessing, but not t=
he {qach}. If you are talking about visiting the library, I don't see much =
difference. I also don't see how {tum} implies "public", but that's how it'=
s glossed, so be it.<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483036832939_53=
95"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483036832939_5452">BTW, I would=
qualify {De' QulwI'} as not just "librarian", but specifically "research l=
ibrarian". In fact, as the term stands, it could refer to anyone in the dat=
a analysis or research field. {paq nojwI'} is much more appropriate for wha=
t I do all day.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483036832939_5516"><br><=
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</span></b> "Michael Roney, Jr." <nahqun@gmail.com><br> <b><span styl=
e=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhin=
gan-hol@kli.org> <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span>=
</b> Thursday, December 29, 2016 12:38 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight=
: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: De=
' QulwI'<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1483036832939_5518"><br><div id=3D"yiv3200024742"><div id=3D"yui_3_=
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d=3D"yiv3200024742yqtfd78295"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1483=
036832939_5519">On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Steven Boozer <<a rel=
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=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">> Also from qepHom 2016:<br clear=3D"none">&=
gt;<br clear=3D"none">> paq nojwI' qach libr=
ary (building) (n)<br clear=3D"none">> paq nojwI' tum &nbs=
p; library (public) (n)<br clear=
=3D"none">><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Do we know what the dif=
ference between libraries is?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clea=
r=3D"none">--<br clear=3D"none">~Michael Roney, Jr.<br clear=3D"none">Freel=
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