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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] to qaStaHvIS or not to qaStaHvIS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qurgh lungqIj)
Thu Dec 29 03:30:27 2016
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From: qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:30:01 -0500
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On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 3:15 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately, at this thread, on this occasion, what has been said so
> far fails to explain why the {Soch DIS vorgh jIQuch} is ungrammatical.
>
To me it's ungrammatical because "previous four years" isn't a label for a
specific moment in time (a time stamp), unlike "Monday", "noon", "12 days
ago". Are you trying to say "seven years ago I was happy"? That would use a
time stamp - {Soch ben jIQuch}
Thank you for taking the time to explain all this, but since I can't
> understand what's going on here, I will continue using expressions
> like {Soch DIS vorgh} without the {qaStaHvIS}.
If you want to say something occurred while an amount of time occurred (a
time span), you need to use {qaStaHvIS} with the amount of time. Are you
trying to say "For the last seven years, I've been happy"? That would use a
time span - {qaStaHvIS Soch DIS vorgh, jIQuch} - "While seven years occur,
I am happy".
qurgh
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
hu, Dec 29, 2016 at 3:15 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Unfortunately, at this threa=
d, on this occasion, what has been said so<br>
far fails to explain why the {Soch DIS vorgh jIQuch} is ungrammatical.<br><=
/blockquote><div><br></div><div>To me it's ungrammatical because "=
previous four years" isn't a label for a specific moment in time (=
a time stamp), unlike "Monday", "noon", "12 days a=
go". Are you trying to say "seven years ago I was happy"? Th=
at would use a time stamp - {Soch ben jIQuch}</div><div><br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">
Thank you for taking the time to explain all this, but since I can't<br=
>
understand what's going on here, I will continue using expressions<br>
like {Soch DIS vorgh} without the {qaStaHvIS}.</blockquote><div><br></div><=
div>If you want to say something occurred while an amount of time occurred =
(a time span), you need to use {qaStaHvIS} with the amount of time. Are you=
trying to say "For the last seven years, I've been happy"? T=
hat would use a time span - {qaStaHvIS Soch DIS vorgh, jIQuch} - "Whil=
e seven years occur, I am happy".=C2=A0<br></div><div><br></div><div>q=
urgh</div></div></div></div>
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