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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] The mouth of Sauron
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Tue Dec 20 20:07:59 2016
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Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:07:29 -0500
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On 12/20/2016 5:50 PM, De'vID wrote:
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> On Dec 20, 2016 19:52, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun@gmail.com
> <mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> however, when a word carries the {-'egh}, isn't that word incapable of
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> having an object ?
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> De'vID:
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> > romuluSngan HoH'eghmoHlaH'a' tlhIngan?
>
> I can't understand this.. "the klingon is able to make himself
> kill the romulan" ?
>
> Is this canon
>
> wotvaD mojaq vIchel'eghmoHta'DI' Dayajbe''a'?
I can follow the English-to-Klingon logic of these sentences, but I do
not see the sequence of grammatical rules that construct them from
Klingon originally and legally. Unless you're saying that we can read
this as *vI- [chel'egh] -moH*/I cause it to self-add,/ where *chel'egh*
is being treated as a separate verb.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/20/2016 5:50 PM, De'vID wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 20, 2016 19:52, "mayqel
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<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">however, when a word carries the {-'egh}, isn't that word incapable of </pre>
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> romuluSngan HoH'eghmoHlaH'a' tlhIngan?</div>
<p dir="ltr">I can't understand this.. "the klingon is
able to make himself kill the romulan" ?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Is this canon </p>
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<div dir="auto">wotvaD mojaq vIchel'eghmoHta'DI' Dayajbe''a'?</div>
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<p>I can follow the English-to-Klingon logic of these sentences, but
I do not see the sequence of grammatical rules that construct them
from Klingon originally and legally. Unless you're saying that we
can read this as <b>vI- [chel'egh] -moH</b><i> I cause it to
self-add,</i> where <b>chel'egh</b> is being treated as a
separate verb.<br>
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