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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] paq'batlh mu'tlhegh

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Tue Dec 20 13:39:11 2016

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On Dec 19, 2016 16:25, "Ed Bailey" <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:07 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:

maj. however, how would you explain tkd's {jIHtaHbogh naDev vISovbe'}, and
> in particular the placement of {naDev} after the {jIHtaHbogh} and not
> before it ?
>
>
My explanation is that to expect the {naDev} to be required to precede
{jIHtaHbogh} is an overgeneralization of the rule that places nouns +
{-Daq} and location nouns like {naDev} before the verb.

In the examples from TKD and paq'batlh, {naDev} does follow the verb,


Which example from the paq'batlh?

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto"><br>=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Dec 19, 2016 16:25, &quot;Ed Bailey&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:beller=
ophon.modeler@gmail.com">bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br ty=
pe=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"=
quoted-text">On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:07 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"l=
tr">maj. however, how would you explain tkd&#39;s {jIHtaHbogh naDev vISovbe=
&#39;}, and in particular the placement of {naDev} after the {jIHtaHbogh} a=
nd not before it ?</p><span></span><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra">My explanation is that to expect the {naDev} to b=
e required to precede {jIHtaHbogh} is an overgeneralization of the rule tha=
t places nouns + {-Daq} and location nouns like {naDev} before the verb.<br=
><br>In the examples from TKD and paq&#39;batlh, {naDev} does follow the ve=
rb, </div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto">Which example from the paq&#39;batlh?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">--=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">De&#39;vID</div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"=
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