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Re: [tlhIngan Hol] How do I say "how much I love (whatever)" ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (mayqel qunenoS)
Sat Dec 10 04:43:15 2016
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From: mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 11:43:11 +0200
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ghunchu'wI':
> I don't understand the question. What sort of
> answer would you expect? If you can tell me
> how you expect to quantify your love, I can
> help you ask what quantity of it you have.
In order to quantify love, of course we can't use numbers, however we
certainly can say:
I love (whatever) a lot
I am crazy about something
I slightly like whatever
..and so on
there are variations of intensity as far as feelings are concerned, and
when we ask someone "how much do you love/hate/like/dislike etc", we
inquire about the intensity of these feelings.
anyway..
after 9 hours of shut-eye (as americans say), I realized there is a way to
work-around this problem.
pelaD !
lets say we want to ask "how much do you love klingon ?". what are we
trying to do ? we want to force the recipient to tell us "how much he
loves".
obviously we can't use the {'ar} because this can only refer to nouns. but
we *can* say: {tlhIngan Hol DaparHa'qu''a'} or even {tlhIngan Hol
DaparHa'chu''a'}. essentialy we ask someone: "do you like klingon a lot ?"
or "do you perfectly like klingon ?" so, the recipient of the question is
forced to reply either accepting that he likes klingon a lot, or saying
that he dislikes it. or maybe even he will use more sentences describing in
detail the "if he likes/dislikes and how much".
whatever the case, I think that by the use of {tlhIngan Hol DaparHa'qu''a'}
and/or {tlhIngan Hol DaparHa'chu''a'} we're forcing an answer which will
define the "how much". either directly with a simple "yes", or indirectly
through an answer which will entail more sentences.
problem solved !
qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
On 10 Dec 2016 4:30 am, "Ed Bailey" <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com> wrote:
> When you ask someone how much you like something, are you asking them to
> describe said liking?
>
> Then how about something like {/souvlaki/ DaparHa' 'e' yIDel!}
>
> Or if you want to assign numerical values...
>
> /souvlaki/ Daparqu' 'e' 'oSchugh wa' 'ej /souvlaki/ DaSopmeH bIHeghqang
> 'e' 'oSchugh wa' maH, SoHvaD /souvlaki/ Delbogh mI' yIngu'!
>
> ...though as ridiculous as that "on a scale from 1 to 10" stuff is to many
> humans, just imagine how idiotic it might sound to Klingons!
>
> ~mIp'av
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">ghunchu'wI':<br>
> I don't understand the question. What sort of<br>
> answer would you expect? If you can tell me<br>
> how you expect to quantify your love, I can<br>
> help you ask what quantity of it you have.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">In order to quantify love, of course we can't use number=
s, however we certainly can say: </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I love (whatever) a lot<br>
I am crazy about something<br>
I slightly like whatever</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">..and so on</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">there are variations of intensity as far as feelings are con=
cerned, and when we ask someone "how much do you love/hate/like/dislik=
e etc", we inquire about the intensity of these feelings.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">anyway..</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">after 9 hours of shut-eye (as americans say), I realized the=
re is a way to work-around this problem.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">pelaD !</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">lets say we want to ask "how much do you love klingon ?=
". what are we trying to do ? we want to force the recipient to tell u=
s "how much he loves".</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">obviously we can't use the {'ar} because this can on=
ly refer to nouns. but we *can* say: {tlhIngan Hol DaparHa'qu''=
a'} or even {tlhIngan Hol DaparHa'chu''a'}. essentialy =
we ask someone: "do you like klingon a lot ?" or "do you per=
fectly like klingon ?" so, the recipient of the question is forced to =
reply either accepting that he likes klingon a lot, or saying that he disli=
kes it. or maybe even he will use more sentences describing in detail the &=
quot;if he likes/dislikes and how much".</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">whatever the case, I think that by the use of {tlhIngan Hol =
DaparHa'qu''a'} and/or {tlhIngan Hol DaparHa'chu'&#=
39;a'} we're forcing an answer which will define the "how much=
". either directly with a simple "yes", or indirectly throug=
h an answer which will entail more sentences.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">problem solved !</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">qunnoH jan puqloD<br>
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 10 Dec 2016 4:=
30 am, "Ed Bailey" <<a href=3D"mailto:bellerophon.modeler@gmai=
l.com">bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>W=
hen you ask someone how much you like something, are you asking them to des=
cribe said liking?<br><br></div>Then how about something like {/souvlaki/ D=
aparHa' 'e' yIDel!}<br><br></div>Or if you want to assign numer=
ical values...<br><br></div>/souvlaki/ Daparqu' 'e' 'oSchug=
h wa' 'ej /souvlaki/ DaSopmeH bIHeghqang 'e' 'oSchugh w=
a' maH, SoHvaD /souvlaki/ Delbogh mI' yIngu'!<br><br></div>...t=
hough as ridiculous as that "on a scale from 1 to 10" stuff is to=
many humans, just imagine how idiotic it might sound to Klingons!<br><br><=
/div>~mIp'av<br></div>
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