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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Dick Jane je
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Martin)
Fri Dec 4 12:42:37 2015
From: Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 12:42:19 -0500
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAP7F2cKYauC_br+vMxBt4bFggsO_itX+yoGAYXV+9JkKLEoZ0A@mail.gmail.com>
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Note that the Romanized alphabet we use for Klingon is not the writing =
system that Klingons use. We are only phonetically representing Klingon =
sounds when we write in Klingon. That=E2=80=99s why punctuation is not =
touched upon in TKD. We don=E2=80=99t know that Klingon writing actually =
has any punctuation.
Similarly, putting spaces between words is a convention that Okrand =
decided to use because it is so common in modern human languages, though =
that has not always been the case. So far as we know, =
allKlingonsentencesormaybeevenentireoperasareallwrittenwithnospaces.
So, the placement of spaces is somewhat arbitrary, especially when it =
comes to certain terms that always show up together. Okrand has chosen =
to make {wa'leS} and {wa=E2=80=99Hu=E2=80=99} single words combining the =
{leS} and {Hu=E2=80=99} with the number =E2=80=9C1=E2=80=9D. We also =
know that you can use other numbers with {leS} and {Hu=E2=80=99}, so =
it=E2=80=99s arbitrary whether you put the space between the number and =
the =E2=80=9Cdays ago=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cdays from now=E2=80=9D.
It=E2=80=99s perfectly okay to include the space. It=E2=80=99s also =
widely accepted to omit it.
pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
> On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:31 PM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
>> HutHu' mu' ba' vIHech
>=20
> ngIq mu' 'oH {HutHu'}'e''a'. {Hut} vItu',{Hu'} vItu' 'a [HutHu'} =
vItu'be'. qatlh
>=20
> qun HoD
>=20
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Bellerophon, modeler
> <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dick Jane je vImughchugh, jIjatlh je <Dick yIlegh!> <Dick Dalu'>
>> vIlaDpu'DI', jImIS.
>> reH buDHa' veqlargh. HutHu' mu' ba' vIHech, 'a cha'logh mu' ta' =
vIghIlth.
>>=20
>> QaghlIjmo' Will Wheaton chut vIqaw. jatlh chutvam: <Dick yIDaQo'!>
>> mu'tlheghvam mughchu'lu'meH, /Dick/ 'oSbogh mu'e' poQlu'. chaq petaQ.
>>=20
>> ~'eD
>>=20
>> --
>> My modeling blog: http://bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/
>> My other modeling blog: http://bellerophon.blog.com/
>>=20
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>=20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Note that the Romanized alphabet we use for =
Klingon is not the writing system that Klingons use. We are only =
phonetically representing Klingon sounds when we write in Klingon. =
That=E2=80=99s why punctuation is not touched upon in TKD. We don=E2=80=99=
t know that Klingon writing actually has any punctuation.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Similarly, putting =
spaces between words is a convention that Okrand decided to use because =
it is so common in modern human languages, though that has not always =
been the case. So far as we know, =
allKlingonsentencesormaybeevenentireoperasareallwrittenwithnospaces.</div>=
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">So, the placement =
of spaces is somewhat arbitrary, especially when it comes to certain =
terms that always show up together. Okrand has chosen to make {wa'leS} =
and {wa=E2=80=99Hu=E2=80=99} single words combining the {leS} and =
{Hu=E2=80=99} with the number =E2=80=9C1=E2=80=9D. We also know that you =
can use other numbers with {leS} and {Hu=E2=80=99}, so it=E2=80=99s =
arbitrary whether you put the space between the number and the =E2=80=9Cda=
ys ago=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cdays from now=E2=80=9D.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It=E2=80=99s perfectly =
okay to include the space. It=E2=80=99s also widely accepted to omit =
it.</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Dec 4, 2015, at 12:31 PM, qunnoQ HoD <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class=3D"">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">HutHu' mu' ba' vIHech<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">ngIq mu' 'oH {HutHu'}'e''a'. =
{Hut} vItu',{Hu'} vItu' 'a [HutHu'} vItu'be'. qatlh<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">qun HoD<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at =
7:15 PM, Bellerophon, modeler<br class=3D""><<a =
href=3D"mailto:bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Dick Jane je =
vImughchugh, jIjatlh je <Dick yIlegh!> <Dick Dalu'><br =
class=3D"">vIlaDpu'DI', jImIS.<br class=3D"">reH buDHa' veqlargh. HutHu' =
mu' ba' vIHech, 'a cha'logh mu' ta' vIghIlth.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">QaghlIjmo' Will Wheaton chut vIqaw. jatlh chutvam: <Dick =
yIDaQo'!><br class=3D"">mu'tlheghvam mughchu'lu'meH, /Dick/ 'oSbogh =
mu'e' poQlu'. chaq petaQ.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">~'eD<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">--<br class=3D"">My modeling blog: =
<a =
href=3D"http://bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/" =
class=3D"">http://bellerophon-modeler.blogspot.com/</a><br class=3D"">My =
other modeling blog: <a href=3D"http://bellerophon.blog.com/" =
class=3D"">http://bellerophon.blog.com/</a><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br =
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