[102846] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Dick Jane je
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick)
Fri Dec 4 08:19:44 2015
From: Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 23:19:29 +1000
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ghItlhpu' naHQun=2C jatlhpu':
> Dick Dalu'.
jangpu' De'vID=2C jatlhpu':
> {Dalu'}?
> {yIlegh} DaHech'a'?
jang je naHQun=2C jatlh:
> I went back and forth with the prefix.> This is something that I've never=
been clear on.> In English=2C "See Dick" is a statement=2C
No=2C it isn't=3B it's still an imperative. Without an overt subject=2C it =
cannot possibly be a statement in English. Who's seeing Dick? {Dick yIlegh}=
is appropriate here.
taH:
> In Klingon=2C I can apparently only have "You see Dick" a statement
> that doesn't match the English=2C or "See Dick" an exclamation (and
> command?).> Am I really commanding the reader to look at the characters?
HIja'. vangwI'pu' legh laDwI' net ra'bejqu'.
taH:
> As far as {lu'} versus {legh} goes=2C I felt that the reader should more
> actively observe the character instead of merely seeing them.> Maybe I'm =
giving more weight to {lu'} than I should.
Klingon doesn't have a verb {lu'}. Do you mean {tu'} "discover=2C find=2C n=
otice=2C observe"?
QeS 'utlh
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>ghItlhpu' naHQun=2C jatlhpu':<br=
>>=3B Dick Dalu'.<br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>jangpu' De'vID=2C jatlhpu'=
:<br>>=3B {Dalu'}?<br>>=3B {yIlegh} DaHech'a'?<br><br>jang je naHQun=2C=
jatlh:<br>>=3B I went back and forth with the prefix.<div>>=3B This is=
something that I've never been clear on.</div><div>>=3B In English=2C "S=
ee Dick" is a statement=2C<br><br>No=2C it isn't=3B it's still an imperativ=
e. Without an overt subject=2C it cannot possibly be a statement in English=
. Who's seeing Dick? {Dick yIlegh} is appropriate here.<br><br>taH:<br>>=
=3B In Klingon=2C I can apparently only have "You see Dick" a statement<br>=
>=3B that doesn't match the English=2C or "See Dick" an exclamation (and<=
br>>=3B command?).</div><div>>=3B Am I really commanding the reader to =
look at the characters?<br><br>HIja'. vangwI'pu' legh laDwI' net ra'bejqu'.=
<br></div><div><br>taH:<br></div><div>>=3B As far as {lu'} versus {legh} =
goes=2C I felt that the reader should more<br>>=3B actively observe the c=
haracter instead of merely seeing them.</div><div>>=3B Maybe I'm giving m=
ore weight to {lu'} than I should.</div><br>Klingon doesn't have a verb {lu=
'}. Do you mean {tu'} "discover=2C find=2C notice=2C observe"?<br><br>QeS '=
utlh<br></div></div> </div></body>
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