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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] 2 nouns in apposition
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (fata irae)
Thu Dec 3 20:42:46 2015
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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 20:42:32 -0500
From: fata irae <fatairae@gmail.com>
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mu'ghom vInejmo'Qo', mu'tlheghmey leghlaw'. mu'taywIj mach.
QISta'
| Exerting similar effort to resist going off on an even more off-topic
rant on the difference between syntactic unambiguity and semantic
unambiguity
jachugh'a''e' tlhlIngan Hol yIjatlh!
Dochvam Dochvetlh joj lughna'. 'englIS Hol jIjatlh:
The block was blocked from blocking out the block by another block.
Dochvam 'oh'a'? Dochvetlh 'oh'a'? quS 'Ijchughmey, 'ach pIm mu'na'.
mu'mey pIm'a' "-pu"? mevchugh ben joj pIm'a'? pImbe' Doch 'e' jIjatlh.
nIbbe' 'oH, 'ach pImbe' 'oH.
~
Because I refuse to look at a dictionary, the sentences are probably not
right (right doubtfully). My vocabulary is small.
Rant in klingon!
This thing, and/or that thing, is the point. In english I say:
The block was blocked from blocking out the block by another block.
Is it this thing? Is it that thing? Few sounds, but different meanings
(true words). Is "-pu" different words? Are stop and/or past different?
The thing is different, I say. It is not the same, but it is not different.
~
Yes, many of the words are placeholders (ngggg, mu'qoq 'oH'a'?), since I
couldn't think of the mu'na', true word. The big one was "know", and a
couple if's I had to rephrase. 'ach vInejQo'. Memory must serve, for now.
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:12 PM, chransberry@gmail.com <chransberry@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Thanks :-D
>
>
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name>
> Date: Thu, Dec 3, 2015 16:08
> Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] 2 nouns in apposition
> To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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> On 12/3/2015 5:55 PM, chransberry@gmail.com wrote:
> > I'll decipher that later; in the meantime, what about my question (at
> > the end of the message quoted below my previous message)?
> >
> > -QISta', ghojchoHwI'
> >
> > PS Speaking of nouns in apposition, I'm trying to say "Krista who is
> > one-who-begins-to-learn", would that be as above, or without the comma,
> > or with the words switched, or what?
>
> It's perfect. Punctuation is optional and can work however you like.
> There are not really any rules there.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">mu'ghom vInejmo'Qo', mu'tlheghmey leghlaw&=
#39;.=C2=A0 mu'taywIj mach.<br><div><br>QISta'<br>| Exerting simila=
r effort to resist going off on an even more off-topic=20
rant on the difference between syntactic unambiguity and semantic=20
unambiguity<br><br></div><div>jachugh'a''e' tlhlIngan Hol y=
Ijatlh!<br><br></div><div>Dochvam Dochvetlh joj lughna'.=C2=A0 'eng=
lIS Hol jIjatlh:<br><br></div><div>The block was blocked from blocking out =
the block by another block.<br><br></div><div>Dochvam 'oh'a'?=
=C2=A0 Dochvetlh 'oh'a'?=C2=A0 quS 'Ijchughmey, 'ach pI=
m mu'na'.=C2=A0 mu'mey pIm'a' "-pu"?=C2=A0 me=
vchugh ben joj pIm'a'?=C2=A0 pImbe' Doch 'e' jIjatlh.=
=C2=A0 nIbbe' 'oH, 'ach pImbe' 'oH.<br><br>~<br></div><=
div>Because I refuse to look at a dictionary, the sentences are probably no=
t right (right doubtfully).=C2=A0 My vocabulary is small.<br><br></div><div=
>Rant in klingon!<br><br></div><div>This thing, and/or that thing, is the p=
oint.=C2=A0 In english I say:<br></div><div>The block was blocked from bloc=
king out the block by another block.<br></div><div>Is it this thing?=C2=A0 =
Is it that thing?=C2=A0 Few sounds, but different meanings (true words).=C2=
=A0 Is "-pu" different words?=C2=A0 Are stop and/or past differen=
t?=C2=A0 The thing is different, I say.=C2=A0 It is not the same, but it is=
not different.<br><br>~</div>Yes, many of the words are placeholders (nggg=
g, mu'qoq 'oH'a'?), since I couldn't think of the mu=
9;na', true word.=C2=A0 The big one was "know", and a couple =
if's I had to rephrase.=C2=A0 'ach vInejQo'.=C2=A0 Memory must =
serve, for now.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:12 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:chransberry@gmail=
.com">chransberry@gmail.com</a> <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:chr=
ansberry@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">chransberry@gmail.com</a>></span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks :-D<span class=3D"im HOEnZb=
"><br><br><br><br>----- Reply message -----<br>From: "SuStel" <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target=3D"_blank">sustel@trimboli.=
name</a>><br></span><span class=3D"im HOEnZb">Date: Thu, Dec 3, 2015 16:=
08<br>Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] 2 nouns in apposition<br>To: <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org" target=3D"_blank">tlhingan-hol@kli.org</a>><=
br><br><br><br></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">On 12/3/2015 =
5:55 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:chransberry@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">chransb=
erry@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>> I'll decipher that later; in the mean=
time, what about my question (at<br>> the end of the message quoted belo=
w my previous message)?<br>><br>> -QISta', ghojchoHwI'<br>>=
;<br>> PS Speaking of nouns in apposition, I'm trying to say "K=
rista who is<br>> one-who-begins-to-learn", would that be as above,=
or without the comma,<br>> or with the words switched, or what?<br><br>=
It's perfect. Punctuation is optional and can work however you like. <b=
r>There are not really any rules there.<br><br>-- <br>SuStel<br><a href=3D"=
http://www.trimboli.name" target=3D"_blank">http://www.trimboli.name</a>/<b=
r><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tlhingan-hol maili=
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