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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Religious terminology

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Stoffel)
Tue Dec 1 12:18:40 2015

From: Tim Stoffel <tim@lionlamb.us>
To: "chransberry@gmail.com" <chransberry@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 09:18:28 -0800
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Cc: tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
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The Orthodox view is similar to the Catholic view, except Saints are
even more venerated.

Expressing the concept of Sainthood in any conlang is an interesting
exercise!

Tim Stoffel

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-----Original Message-----
From: chransberry@gmail.com <chransberry@gmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Religious terminology
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 07:31:53 -0700

Depends on whether you're Protestant, Catholic, or Orthodox. In the
Protestant view, every believer is a saint. In the Catholic view, a
saint is, as far as I know, a person who has died, is considered
particularly holy, and has been officially declared a saint. The
Orthodox view is probably similar but I don't know much about it.

-QISta' 

----- Reply message -----
From: "Anthony Appleyard" <a.appleyard@btinternet.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 1, 2015 06:55
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Religious terminology
To: <nahqun@gmail.com>, <tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>

I understood that a saint was a Christian who in early times did
something recognized as very holy, not merely "a member of the church, a
fellow believer or follower".
Some saints were the first man who successfully preached Christiuanity
in an area, e.g. St. Patrick in Ireland, or St.David in Wales.
Some saints were martyrs for their faith, e.g. St.Stephen who was
stoned  to death.
----Original message----
From : nahqun@gmail.com
Date : 01/12/2015 - 12:09 (GMTST)
To : tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
Subject : Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Religious terminology
On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 6:32 AM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've been trying in vain,to find ways to express the following words
> in Klingon :
>
> bless (v)
> saint (n)
> sacred,to be sacred
> holy,to be holy
>
> Does anyone have any ideas ?
>
A saint is a member of the church, a fellow believer or follower.
While I've seen {quvwI'pu'} used here before, and used it myself, you
may want to consider playing around with
{chuD} people, kin, member of the same group or tribe or clan
{tuqnIgh} a member of one's house
{vInDa'} compatriot, community member, cohort, fellow citizen


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