[102505] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Objects, direct and indirect
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID)
Sun Nov 22 04:44:41 2015
In-Reply-To: <564F98D8.4000306@trimboli.name>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 10:44:20 +0100
From: "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
To: "tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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SuStel:
>[...]
> I think what's happening here is not that these verbs can take different
> direct objects at different times, but rather that Klingon syntax does not
> distinguish between direct and indirect objects at all, even when it does so
> semantically.
>[...]
I wonder how multiple objects would work with {-chuq}?
Can one say {quv maja'chuq}?
What about {Qu'maj maqawchuqmoH}?
SuStel:
> [...]
> You can't just say, "the object of {ja'} is the person spoken to." The
> semantic direct object of {ja'} is the thing said; the semantic indirect
> object is the person spoken to. Once you've got that, you know that either
> of those can be the syntactic object, and that the thing said trumps the
> person it's said to if there's a question as to which one becomes the
> syntactic object, and that you can use the prefix trick to refer to an
> implicit first- or second-person told-to person while also using the thing
> said explicitly.
I am imagining an A'bot & Koste'loh routine involving Klingons
commanders named L'ut ({lut}) and Dok'lh ({Dotlh}) and their
unfortunate subordinates who are trying to relay a story and a status
report between them.
(We know that Klingon names can sometimes coincide with common words,
like {Qel} "Krell" and {paq} "Pok".)
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De'vID
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