[102271] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: plural in nationalities
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ruben Molina)
Thu Nov 12 14:53:57 2015
In-Reply-To: <5644ECD0.7090403@trimboli.name>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:53:43 -0500
From: Ruben Molina <rmolina@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:47 PM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 11/12/2015 2:35 PM, Elizabeth Lawrence wrote:
>
>> I think that qunnoQ was asking about insulting people by calling them
>> "Ferengi dogs." In that case, if he is using the construction
>> <<verengan Ha'DIbaH>>, Ha'DIbaH is the descriptor.
>>
>> This is somewhat idiomatic, so I am not certain that it makes sense as a
>> Klingon insult. Not all cultures consider animals inferior/insulting in
>> this way.
>>
>
> {verengan Ha'DIbaH} is called a classic insult in KCD.
>
> Kruge curses at his vaporized gunner by calling him a {Ha'DIbaH} in Star
> Trek III.
>
>
{tera'ngan Ha'DIbaH!} "Terran animal!" is also used as an insult in STConst
p.228.
And, of course, {Ha'DIbaH} is listed as slang for "inferior person" in KGT
p.216.
ruben
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:47 PM, SuStel <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target=3D"_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>=
></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);bor=
der-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 11/12/2015 2:35 =
PM, Elizabeth Lawrence wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
I think that qunnoQ was asking about insulting people by calling them<br>
"Ferengi dogs."=C2=A0 In that case, if he is using the constructi=
on<br>
<<verengan Ha'DIbaH>>, Ha'DIbaH is the descriptor.<br>
<br>
This is somewhat idiomatic, so I am not certain that it makes sense as a<br=
>
Klingon insult.=C2=A0 Not all cultures consider animals inferior/insulting =
in<br>
this way.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
{verengan Ha'DIbaH} is called a classic insult in KCD.<br>
<br>
Kruge curses at his vaporized gunner by calling him a {Ha'DIbaH} in Sta=
r Trek III.<span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br></font></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>{tera'ngan Ha'DI=
baH!} "Terran animal!" is also used as an insult in STConst p.228=
.</div><div>And, of course, {Ha'DIbaH} is listed as slang for "inf=
erior person" in KGT p.216.</div><div><br></div><div>ruben</div></div>=
</div></div>
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