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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] rup
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qunnoQ HoD)
Wed Nov 11 09:30:47 2015
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 16:30:32 +0200
From: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
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thanks for replying. I thought too that "tax" was to be used only in the
way of the "evil king" example. I just wanted to make certain.
> Hmm, I'm uncertain what you mean by "<<tax>> isn't within brackets". Are
you looking at a digital version of the book?
> Where this came from?
no,I'm not using a digital version. I was referring to the actual/physical
book. maybe i didn't describe well what i meant to say.. I remember,when I
was learning english,whenever there was a word which's meaning could be
interpreted in two separate ways,then the explanation/clarification would
follow the first word being contained in brackets. In our topic it would be
something like :
rup (v) to fine, (to tax)
whenever on the other hand a word actually had two separate meanings,then
it would be written as :
rup (v) to fine,to tax
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:08 PM, SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 11/11/2015 8:40 AM, Felix Malmenbeck wrote:
>
>> Hmm, I'm uncertain what you mean by "<<tax>> isn't within brackets". Are
>> you looking at a digital version of the book?
>>
>> When two different definitions are given for a word, it's often to help
>> avoid ambiguity. As you say, the English word "tax" is ambiguous, but
>> the addition of "fine" makes it clear which meaning of the word is
>> intended.
>>
>> It would be very surprising if the Klingon word had the same ambiguity,
>> so I'd advise you to stick to the "evil king" use of the word.
>>
>
> On the other hand, "tax, impose a burden on" is really just another sense
> of the meaning of "tax, fine." I don't think its inconceivable to use {rup}
> in this sense, though it might be considered metaphorical.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>thanks for replying. I thought too that &qu=
ot;tax" was to be used only in the way of the "evil king" ex=
ample. I just wanted to make certain.<br><br>> Hmm, I'm uncertain wh=
at you mean by "<<tax>> isn't within=20
brackets". Are you looking at a digital version of the book?<br>> W=
here this came from?<br><br></div>no,I'm not using a digital version. I=
was referring to the actual/physical book. maybe i didn't describe wel=
l what i meant to say.. I remember,when I was learning english,whenever the=
re was a word which's meaning could be interpreted in two separate ways=
,then the explanation/clarification would follow the first word being conta=
ined in brackets. In our topic it would be something like :<br><br></div>ru=
p (v) to fine, (to tax)<br><br></div>whenever on the other hand a word actu=
ally had two separate meanings,then it would be written as :<br><br>rup (v)=
to fine,to tax<br><div><div><br><br></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:08 PM, SuSt=
el <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target=3D"=
_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 11/11/2015 8:40 AM, Felix Malmenbeck wrote:<b=
r>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hmm, I'm uncertain what you mean by "<<tax>> isn't=
within brackets". Are<br>
you looking at a digital version of the book?<br>
<br>
When two different definitions are given for a word, it's often to help=
<br>
avoid ambiguity. As you say, the English word "tax" is ambiguous,=
but<br>
the addition of "fine" makes it clear which meaning of the word i=
s intended.<br>
<br>
It would be very surprising if the Klingon word had the same ambiguity,<br>
so I'd advise you to stick to the "evil king" use of the word=
.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
On the other hand, "tax, impose a burden on" is really just anoth=
er sense of the meaning of "tax, fine." I don't think its inc=
onceivable to use {rup} in this sense, though it might be considered metaph=
orical.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
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