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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Establishing a BG
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John R. Harness)
Tue Nov 10 13:35:48 2015
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:35:31 -0600
From: "John R. Harness" <cartweel@gmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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QeS has already reached out (off list) to several intermediate speakers who
could potentially be BG, and has suggested that other interested folks
throw their names into the hat.
I understand what you're saying, lojmIt tI'wI'nuv, about not wanting to get
bogged down in a discussion of who it should be; but that's not what's
happening at the moment.
qurgh has also just posted about finding help with promotion and education
on the KLI Facebook page, so there is no lack of ways for folks to help
out, if they want.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:23:04 -0500
> From: Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
> To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
> Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Establishing a BG
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> Email is a remarkably bad resource for making a decision. Why don?t we
> just arbitrarily choose a Beginners? Grammarian (BG) and let them try to
> impress us with the quality of their work (as the earlier BGs did) and
> their dedication to the task. If we like the job they are doing, then they
> get to be BG. If we don?t like the job they are doing, then we thank them
> for trying and appoint another BG.
>
> By doing it this way, we?ll actually get a functioning BG, likely weeks,
> or months, or maybe even YEARS faster than we will if we keep discussing it
> and hope that somehow out of the discussion, we will have made some kind of
> group decision as to who should, in fact, be the new BG?
>
> I saw at least one volunteer in a recent message. If the offer is sincere,
> I suggest a bolder, ?Let me do this job and I?ll make you proud of me!?
> message. This works better with Klingons than a, ?I think that maybe I?m
> willing to sort of act like a BG if you guys don?t mind too much and if you
> don?t think that someone else could do it better,? message.
>
> Invest some gusto. Consider it an audition for the kind of confidence you
> are willing to present to the new speakers.
>
> And if you get swept aside, don?t take it as an insult. Just wait your
> turn if someone else manages to get the position before you do.
>
> It?s only a matter of time before they get burned out like the rest of us
> did. Then YOU get to be the BG, with their happy support (so they don?t
> have to do it anymore).
>
> pItlh
> lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>QeS has already reached out (off list) to several int=
ermediate speakers who could potentially be BG, and has suggested that othe=
r interested folks throw their names into the hat.</div><div><br></div><div=
>I understand what you're saying, lojmIt tI'wI'nuv, about not w=
anting to get bogged down in a discussion of who it should be; but that'=
;s not what's happening at the moment.</div><div><br></div><div>qurgh h=
as also just posted about finding help with promotion and education on the =
KLI Facebook page, so there is no lack of ways for folks to help out, if th=
ey want.</div><div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"g=
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:23:04 -0500<br>
From: Will Martin <<a href=3D"mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com">lojmitti=
7wi7nuv@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Establishing a BG<br>
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Email is a remarkably bad resource for making a decision. Why don?t we just=
arbitrarily choose a Beginners? Grammarian (BG) and let them try to impres=
s us with the quality of their work (as the earlier BGs did) and their dedi=
cation to the task. If we like the job they are doing, then they get to be =
BG. If we don?t like the job they are doing, then we thank them for trying =
and appoint another BG.<br>
<br>
By doing it this way, we?ll actually get a functioning BG, likely weeks, or=
months, or maybe even YEARS faster than we will if we keep discussing it a=
nd hope that somehow out of the discussion, we will have made some kind of =
group decision as to who should, in fact, be the new BG?<br>
<br>
I saw at least one volunteer in a recent message. If the offer is sincere, =
I suggest a bolder, ?Let me do this job and I?ll make you proud of me!? mes=
sage. This works better with Klingons than a, ?I think that maybe I?m willi=
ng to sort of act like a BG if you guys don?t mind too much and if you don?=
t think that someone else could do it better,? message.<br>
<br>
Invest some gusto. Consider it an audition for the kind of confidence you a=
re willing to present to the new speakers.<br>
<br>
And if you get swept aside, don?t take it as an insult. Just wait your turn=
if someone else manages to get the position before you do.<br>
<br>
It?s only a matter of time before they get burned out like the rest of us d=
id. Then YOU get to be the BG, with their happy support (so they don?t have=
to do it anymore).<br>
<br>
pItlh<br>
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv<br>
<br>
<br><br>
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