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[Tlhingan-hol] Beginner's Grammarian: The hunt is on
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick)
Mon Nov 9 20:07:35 2015
From: Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:07:00 +1000
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tetlh jeSwI'pu'=2C Savan.
Further to a lot of discussion on the list recently about Beginner's Gramma=
rians and the absence of same=2C I've been starting to get the ball rolling=
over the last few days on a process for finding and investing a new BG. I =
don't hold any exceptional authority apart from my own history as a BG emer=
itus=2C but I do view the role of BG very passionately and it's because of =
that that I'm taking it on myself to organise The Great BG Hunt of 2015 (as=
it were).
Having sought advice from Holtej=2C I've decided to take this process on fo=
rmally=2C and with advice from other long-time Klingonists=2C I'm compiling=
a list of potential candidates that I'll be emailing later today. That lis=
t almost certainly won't be exhaustive=2C though=2C and anyone who thinks t=
hey have the Klingon chops to take the role is also more than welcome to th=
row their hat into the ring. To let prospective BGs know what's involved in=
the role=2C I'm attaching a brief description of the KLBC forum tag and a =
more detailed description of the BG's role on the mailing list.
The role of the Beginner's Grammarian (BG) and the "Klingon Language Beginn=
er's Conversation" (KLBC) tag
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The Klingon Language Beginner's Conversation (KLBC) was formed in February =
of 1994 as a forum for beginners on the tlhIngan-Hol mailing list to practi=
se using Klingon=2C without having the conversations become too complex for=
beginners to follow or sparking off arcane discussions or arguments about =
Klingon grammar. It was felt that it would be overwhelming for a beginner t=
o have their question answered a dozen times by a horde of well-intentioned=
veterans. So one noble soul was chosen to have the right of first strike=
=2C as it were: this person is the Beginner's Grammarian (BG for short). Po=
sts to the KLBC are identified as such with the letters "KLBC" at the begin=
ning of the message's subject line. Anyone is welcome to respond to the con=
tent (in Klingon) of a KLBC post=2C but only the BG is allowed to respond t=
o and advise on grammatical content (usually in English). Once the BG has r=
esponded=2C then others may comment on grammar as well.
The Beginner's Grammarian (BG) has traditionally been a promising intermedi=
ate-level Klingonist=2C in the past usually selected and trained by their p=
redecessor. If a prospective BG has any formal qualifications=2C they shoul=
d ideally have passed a Level 1 (bronze) or Level 2 (silver) certification=
=2C though formal qualifications are by no means necessary and a level of p=
ractical ability in the language is the only important factor. The role of =
the BG is to respond to any posts tagged "KLBC"=2C or any posts that are ob=
viously from a complete newcomer. As such=2C the BG is expected to be quite=
closely involved with traffic on the list (i.e. on a daily or near-daily b=
asis) for the term of their service=2C and should keep an eye out for any n=
ew faces or questions that would be typical of beginning Klingon students. =
Originally=2C the role was planned to rotate every six months=3B in practic=
e a term of approximately twelve months (one year) has become the norm=2C t=
hough this is not at all fixed and may be varied as necessary. Also=2C the =
tlhIngan-Hol mailing list is an official project of the KLI=2C and as such=
=2C the BG is expected to behave in a professional and mature manner at all=
times.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
And that's it. The role can be quite involved at times=2C particularly when=
traffic from beginners is high=2C but it's not at all onerous=2C particula=
rly in these days when much of the non-TKD/KGT Klingon canon is available o=
nline (such as the older=2C but immensely valuable=2C MSN postings). The wa=
y I view it is that the BG role is almost like a Klingon-language internshi=
p of sorts. As BG you learn as much as=2C if not more than=2C you teach and=
it will help to bring you a new level of familiarity with the language tha=
t will serve you well if you aim to reach for Level 3 (gold) certification =
in the KLCP. (To put it in perspective=2C I've heard estimates that the Lev=
el 3 certification has been achieved by about 20 people in the history of t=
he KLCP. Of those=2C the list Grammarians - Krankor=2C Seqram=2C and the ex=
-BGs - account for at least 10=2C perhaps more.) Plus it's good fun=2C and =
many of the ex-BGs are still active on the list=2C so there are plenty of p=
eople around to offer advice if the new BG should need it.
So in short=2C watch this space. I'll be reaching out over the course of to=
day to several speakers who've been suggested to me=2C and if there's anyon=
e who's particularly interested=2C of course feel free to put your name for=
ward as well by either emailing me privately (qeslagh@hotmail.com) or by po=
sting publicly to the list.
QeS 'utlh
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>tetlh jeSwI'pu'=2C Savan.<br><br=
>Further to a lot of discussion on the list recently about Beginner's Gramm=
arians and the absence of same=2C I've been starting to get the ball rollin=
g over the last few days on a process for finding and investing a new BG. I=
don't hold any exceptional authority apart from my own history as a BG eme=
ritus=2C but I do view the role of BG very passionately and it's because of=
that that I'm taking it on myself to organise The Great BG Hunt of 2015 (a=
s it were).<br><br>Having sought advice from Holtej=2C I've decided to take=
this process on formally=2C and with advice from other long-time Klingonis=
ts=2C I'm compiling a list of potential candidates that I'll be emailing la=
ter today. That list almost certainly won't be exhaustive=2C though=2C and =
anyone who thinks they have the Klingon chops to take the role is also more=
than welcome to throw their hat into the ring. To let prospective BGs know=
what's involved in the role=2C I'm attaching a brief description of the KL=
BC forum tag and a more detailed description of the BG's role on the mailin=
g list.<br><br>The role of the Beginner's Grammarian (BG) and the "Klingon =
Language Beginner's Conversation" (KLBC) tag<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>The Klingon Language Beginner's Conversation (KLBC) was =
formed in February of 1994 as a forum for beginners on the tlhIngan-Hol mai=
ling list to practise using Klingon=2C without having the conversations bec=
ome too complex for beginners to follow or sparking off arcane discussions =
or arguments about Klingon grammar. It was felt that it would be overwhelmi=
ng for a beginner to have their question answered a dozen times by a horde =
of well-intentioned veterans. So one noble soul was chosen to have the righ=
t of first strike=2C as it were: this person is the Beginner's Grammarian (=
BG for short). Posts to the KLBC are identified as such with the letters "K=
LBC" at the beginning of the message's subject line. Anyone is welcome to r=
espond to the content (in Klingon) of a KLBC post=2C but only the BG is all=
owed to respond to and advise on grammatical content (usually in English). =
Once the BG has responded=2C then others may comment on grammar as well.<br=
><br>The Beginner's Grammarian (BG) has traditionally been a promising inte=
rmediate-level Klingonist=2C in the past usually selected and trained by th=
eir predecessor. If a prospective BG has any formal qualifications=2C they =
should ideally have passed a Level 1 (bronze) or Level 2 (silver) certifica=
tion=2C though formal qualifications are by no means necessary and a level =
of practical ability in the language is the only important factor. The role=
of the BG is to respond to any posts tagged "KLBC"=2C or any posts that ar=
e obviously from a complete newcomer. As such=2C the BG is expected to be q=
uite closely involved with traffic on the list (i.e. on a daily or near-dai=
ly basis) for the term of their service=2C and should keep an eye out for a=
ny new faces or questions that would be typical of beginning Klingon studen=
ts. Originally=2C the role was planned to rotate every six months=3B in pra=
ctice a term of approximately twelve months (one year) has become the norm=
=2C though this is not at all fixed and may be varied as necessary. Also=2C=
the tlhIngan-Hol mailing list is an official project of the KLI=2C and as =
such=2C the BG is expected to behave in a professional and mature manner at=
all times.<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br><br>And that's=
it. The role can be quite involved at times=2C particularly when traffic f=
rom beginners is high=2C but it's not at all onerous=2C particularly in the=
se days when much of the non-TKD/KGT Klingon canon is available online (suc=
h as the older=2C but immensely valuable=2C MSN postings). The way I view i=
t is that the BG role is almost like a Klingon-language internship of sorts=
. As BG you learn as much as=2C if not more than=2C you teach and it will h=
elp to bring you a new level of familiarity with the language that will ser=
ve you well if you aim to reach for Level 3 (gold) certification in the KLC=
P. (To put it in perspective=2C I've heard estimates that the Level 3 certi=
fication has been achieved by about 20 people in the history of the KLCP. O=
f those=2C the list Grammarians - Krankor=2C Seqram=2C and the ex-BGs - acc=
ount for at least 10=2C perhaps more.) Plus it's good fun=2C and many of th=
e ex-BGs are still active on the list=2C so there are plenty of people arou=
nd to offer advice if the new BG should need it.<br><br>So in short=2C watc=
h this space. I'll be reaching out over the course of today to several spea=
kers who've been suggested to me=2C and if there's anyone who's particularl=
y interested=2C of course feel free to put your name forward as well by eit=
her emailing me privately (qeslagh@hotmail.com) or by posting publicly to t=
he list.<br><br>QeS 'utlh<br> </div></body>
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