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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Concerning the purpose clauses
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Mon Nov 9 13:34:00 2015
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 19:33:42 +0100
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Thanks, SuStel, you're right. I remembered that there was one "exception"
and thus believed it was only a tendency rather than a rule. I think MO
explicitly stated that purpose clauses always come before the verb or noun
they modify. I can't find the exception in my notes now, but it was on page
173 of the paq'batlh.
Maybe artistic license.
- Andr=C3=A9
2015-11-09 19:00 GMT+01:00 SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name>:
> On 11/9/2015 12:27 PM, Andr=C3=A9 M=C3=BCller wrote:
>
>> Actually {-meH} isn't that complex. Its meaning really is to state
>> purpose and it can modify sentences or single nouns. It's position is
>> before (or after) the sentence if it modifies a sentence. Or before the
>> noun, if it modifies a noun.
>>
>
> Purpose clauses cannot come after the verb they modify, only before. Othe=
r
> subordinate clauses (-chugh, -DI', -pa', -mo', -vIS) can come before or
> after.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks, SuStel, you're right. I remembered that t=
here was one "exception" and thus believed it was only a tendency=
rather than a rule. I think MO explicitly stated that purpose clauses alwa=
ys come before the verb or noun they modify. I can't find the exception=
in my notes now, but it was on page 173 of the paq'batlh.<br></div><di=
v>Maybe artistic license.<br></div><div><br></div><div>- Andr=C3=A9<br></di=
v></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2015-11-0=
9 19:00 GMT+01:00 SuStel <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:sustel@tri=
mboli.name" target=3D"_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>></span>:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 11/9/2015 12:27 PM, Andr=C3=
=A9 M=C3=BCller wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Actually {-meH} isn't that complex. Its meaning really is to state<br>
purpose and it can modify sentences or single nouns. It's position is<b=
r>
before (or after) the sentence if it modifies a sentence. Or before the<br>
noun, if it modifies a noun.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
Purpose clauses cannot come after the verb they modify, only before. Other =
subordinate clauses (-chugh, -DI', -pa', -mo', -vIS) can come b=
efore or after.<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
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