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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] How many grammarians ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qunnoQ HoD)
Mon Nov 9 05:53:21 2015
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 12:53:05 +0200
From: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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interesting thoughts indeed..
On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:09 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
> lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh:
> >> He was the first human to speak Klingon. He did so before Okrand could
> >> speak it.
>
> qunnoQ HoD:
> > how is this possible ? I always thought Okrand has/had the maximum skill
> in
> > klingon (written and conversational) anyone could ever achieve.. After
> all
> > -by definition- every klingonist out there, from beginner to grammarian,
> is
> > Okrand's student.
>
> Actually, Okrand isn't all that familiar with his own invention. He
> has to sit down with a dictionary to compose a complex sentence, and
> he can't hold a live conversation.
>
> The inventor of something isn't necessarily its most skilled user.
>
> (This has been generally true throughout history: imagine the inventor
> of the yo-yo, the automobile, the bow-and-arrow, and so forth; now
> imagine the world champion yo-yoist, the best stunt car driver, the
> best archer, etc. With almost anything you can think of, the inventor
> isn't the most skilled user. The one thing that Okrand does have over
> everyone else is that he can declare something to be right/wrong at
> any time.)
>
> --
> De'vID
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">interesting thoughts indeed..<br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 12:09 PM, De&=
#39;vID <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex">lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh:<br>
<span class=3D"">>> He was the first human to speak Klingon. He did s=
o before Okrand could<br>
>> speak it.<br>
<br>
</span>qunnoQ HoD:<br>
<span class=3D"">> how is this possible ? I always thought Okrand has/ha=
d the maximum skill in<br>
> klingon (written and conversational) anyone could ever achieve.. After=
all<br>
> -by definition- every klingonist out there, from beginner to grammaria=
n, is<br>
> Okrand's student.<br>
<br>
</span>Actually, Okrand isn't all that familiar with his own invention.=
He<br>
has to sit down with a dictionary to compose a complex sentence, and<br>
he can't hold a live conversation.<br>
<br>
The inventor of something isn't necessarily its most skilled user.<br>
<br>
(This has been generally true throughout history: imagine the inventor<br>
of the yo-yo, the automobile, the bow-and-arrow, and so forth; now<br>
imagine the world champion yo-yoist, the best stunt car driver, the<br>
best archer, etc. With almost anything you can think of, the inventor<br>
isn't the most skilled user. The one thing that Okrand does have over<b=
r>
everyone else is that he can declare something to be right/wrong at<br>
any time.)<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
De'vID<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>
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