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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] tlhlIngan veS qeS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qunnoQ HoD)
Sun Nov 8 06:07:38 2015

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 13:07:21 +0200
From: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
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> I still don't see {-vIS} represented in your English sentence

hmm.. interesting.. I now realize a mistake I have been (unconsciously)
doing ; whenever I came across two suffixes together (one following the
other), I thought that I could "summarize" their meaning as I understood
it. I didn't realize that in the translation, I would have to actually
translate them both in English. So, when I read {Dalo'taHvIS} I thought
that the {-taH} was the important part,and that the {-vIS} could be
"assumed" from the translation I was about to give. Anyway, thank you for
bringing this mistake I have been doing to my attention ! I will definitely
try to improve !

now that I think of it,what actually happens with me,is what was happening
with a dog I had way back.. whenever I went to feed it, it was so happy
that it would eat,so that it would jump on me and spill down its food.
I'm so happy that I find the translation (or at least thinking that I found
it),that I do not take the time to check that I didn't forget something
(such a suffix,as was clearly the case). I really need to be more careful
in the future.

> I believe the simple sentences at the top, which you once wrote in
English, may actually be within your abilities in Klingon, so I was trying
to encourage you to write them in Klingon.
ok,you lost me here.. which sentences are you referring too ?

cpt qunnoQ

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 9:26 PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <
lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is one of my all-time favorite exchanges on this list.
>
> lojmIt tI=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 nuv =E2=80=98utlh
> Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably
>
>
>
> > A conversation many years ago:
> >
> > Nick Nickolas - "An aside: is it just me (and I know for a fact it
> isn't), or does talking in
> > Klingon actually *force* you to be rude? ;)  "
> >
> > Richard Kennaway - "No, talking Terran forces you to be wittering,
> vague, and indecisive."
> >
> >
> >
> > - DloraH
> >
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>&gt; I still don&#39;t see {-vIS}=
 represented in your English sentence<br><br></div>hmm.. interesting.. I no=
w realize a mistake I have been (unconsciously) doing ; whenever I came acr=
oss two suffixes together (one following the other), I thought that I could=
 &quot;summarize&quot; their meaning as I understood it. I didn&#39;t reali=
ze that in the translation, I would have to actually translate them both in=
 English. So, when I read {<span class=3D"im">Dalo&#39;taHvIS} I thought th=
at the {-taH} was the important part,and that the {-vIS} could be &quot;ass=
umed&quot; from the translation I was about to give. Anyway, thank you for =
bringing this mistake I have been doing to my attention ! I will definitely=
 try to improve !<br><br></span></div><span class=3D"im">now that I think o=
f it,what actually happens with me,is what was happening with a dog I had w=
ay back.. whenever I went to feed it, it was so happy that it would eat,so =
that it would jump on me and spill down its food.<br></span></div><span cla=
ss=3D"im">I&#39;m so happy that I find the translation (or at least thinkin=
g that I found it),that I do not take the time to check that I didn&#39;t f=
orget something (such a suffix,as was clearly the case). I really need to b=
e more careful in the future.<br><br>&gt; </span>I believe the simple sente=
nces at the top, which you once wrote in=20
English, may actually be within your abilities in Klingon, so I was=20
trying to encourage you to write them in Klingon.<br></div>ok,you lost me h=
ere.. which sentences are you referring too ?<br><br></div>cpt qunnoQ<br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 7=
, 2015 at 9:26 PM, lojmIt tI&#39;wI&#39; nuv &#39;utlh <span dir=3D"ltr">&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lojmitti7w=
i7nuv@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thi=
s is one of my all-time favorite exchanges on this list.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
lojmIt tI=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 nuv =E2=80=98utlh<br>
Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; A conversation many years ago:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Nick Nickolas - &quot;An aside: is it just me (and I know for a fact i=
t isn&#39;t), or does talking in<br>
&gt; Klingon actually *force* you to be rude? ;)=C2=A0 &quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Richard Kennaway - &quot;No, talking Terran forces you to be wittering=
, vague, and indecisive.&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; - DloraH<br>
&gt;<br>
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