[102011] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] tlhlIngan veS qeS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qunnoQ HoD)
Sat Nov 7 10:25:39 2015
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmPbvnsX5OVbVMu0XV4MnOZtavK8dhQL14i69wsyuUFL8A@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 17:25:24 +0200
From: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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> My favorite way to break down long sentences is to identify each verb,
then identify the subject and object of each verb, then identify any
additional words affecting those verbs.
this is indeed what I tried to do,but things went south somewhere along the
way.. (I love the "things went south" expression ! I wish we had it in
greek too..)
> I think you have confused {-vIS} "while" with {-nIS} "need".
yes,you are right ! I just realized it.
ok,lets try again.. maybe the translation is something like <<if you keep
using tlhIngan Hol,I believe you will be able to speak these sentences>> ?
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 4:58 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
> qunnoQ HoD:
> >> >>> ok,I understand now. thank you !
>
> janSIy:
> >> >> tlhIngan Hol Dalo'taHvIS mu'tlheghmeyvetlh DajatlhlaH 'e' vIHar.
>
> qunnoQ HoD:
> >> > i didn't quite understand the translation of this.. <<in the klingon
> >> > language you need saying that the sentences are able to believe>> ???
>
> De'vID:
> >> The word {mu'tlheghmeyvetlh} "these sentences" are referring to "ok, I
> >> understand now. thank you!" which you wrote above. Keep that in mind
> >> and give it another try.
>
> qunnoQ HoD:
> > <<you need using these sentences in tlhIngan Hol,you can be saying that
> you
> > believe>> ?
> > I can't figure it out !
>
> I think you have confused {-vIS} "while" with {-nIS} "need".
>
> Also, remember that Klingon is OVS (object verb subject), the reverse
> of English SVO. So {jatlh 'e' Har} is not "say that [...] believes",
> but "believes that [...] say".
>
> --
> De'vID
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>> My favorite way to break down long sen=
tences is to identify each verb,=20
then identify the subject and object of each verb, then identify any=20
additional words affecting those verbs.<br>this is indeed what I tried to d=
o,but things went south somewhere along the way.. (I love the "things =
went south" expression ! I wish we had it in greek too..)<br><br>> =
I think you have confused {-vIS} "while" with {-nIS} "need&q=
uot;.<br></div>yes,you are right ! I just realized it.<br><br></div><div>ok=
,lets try again.. maybe the translation is something like <<if you ke=
ep using tlhIngan Hol,I believe you will be able to speak these sentences&g=
t;> ?<br></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 4:58 PM, De'vID <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">de.vid.jonp=
in@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span =
class=3D"">qunnoQ HoD:<br>
>> >>> ok,I understand now. thank you !<br>
<br>
janSIy:<br>
>> >> tlhIngan Hol Dalo'taHvIS mu'tlheghmeyvetlh Dajatl=
hlaH 'e' vIHar.<br>
<br>
qunnoQ HoD:<br>
>> > i didn't quite understand the translation of this.. <&=
lt;in the klingon<br>
>> > language you need saying that the sentences are able to belie=
ve>> ???<br>
<br>
</span>De'vID:<br>
<span class=3D"">>> The word {mu'tlheghmeyvetlh} "these sent=
ences" are referring to "ok, I<br>
>> understand now. thank you!" which you wrote above. Keep that =
in mind<br>
>> and give it another try.<br>
<br>
</span>qunnoQ HoD:<br>
<span class=3D"">> <<you need using these sentences in tlhIngan Ho=
l,you can be saying that you<br>
> believe>> ?<br>
> I can't figure it out !<br>
<br>
</span>I think you have confused {-vIS} "while" with {-nIS} "=
;need".<br>
<br>
Also, remember that Klingon is OVS (object verb subject), the reverse<br>
of English SVO. So {jatlh 'e' Har} is not "say that [...] beli=
eves",<br>
but "believes that [...] say".<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
De'vID<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>
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