[101837] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Multiple Adverbials (was Re: Piraha)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (SuStel)
Mon Nov 2 17:34:58 2015
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
From: SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name>
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 17:33:27 -0500
In-Reply-To: <5637C7B4.4070309@gmx.de>
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On 11/2/2015 3:29 PM, Lieven wrote:
> As far as I know, and you certainly agree, there are different kinds of
> adverbials: Some of them tell WHEN something happens, some tell HOW
> something happens.
>
> I believe that Okrand did not think of classifying them like that - to
> keep TKD short - so it's still possible that these must have some kind
> of order (this need to be verified and proven).
>
> My theory is that adverbs of the same type cannot occur on the same time:
> {DaH tugh maSop} makes no sense
> {DaH nom maSop} does make sense
What you're describing is a semantic difference, and there may or may
not be merit to it. TKD, however, describes only the syntactic function
of certain types of {chuvmey}.
The question boils down to: can you put multiple words in front of the
OVS sentence that are not nouns or verbs? Answer: yes, if we believe the
{paq'batlh} is not taking artistic license.
Are we restricted as to what those words mean? That's a question of
semantics. There are certainly combinations that don't make sense, but
you can't outright declare them ungrammatical. Colorless green ideas
sleep furiously, and all that.
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SuStel
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