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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Significance of constructed languages
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karen Alessio)
Sun Nov 1 15:11:33 2015
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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 15:11:19 -0500
From: Karen Alessio <karenalessio@gmail.com>
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that is exactly how I feel at thr moment too. Glad I'm not alone, qunnoQ.
On Nov 1, 2015 2:27 PM, "qunnoQ HoD" <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> > {Holmey lumutlhlu'bogh} = "languages which are constructed".
>
> that is what i wanted to say ! at first I tried to write <<constructed
> languages>>,but i couldn't find the exact words. then I thought of saying
> <<languages linguists constructed>> but this went south too. so finally I
> decided to try and write <<languages which are constructed>>
>
> just a question on {-ghach} because I didn't quite understand its use. is
> {-ghach} only to be glued at verbs ending in suffixes as {-be'}, {Ha'} etc,
> or can I put it too on verbs such as {Hurgh} ? So as to mean {Hurghghach} =
> Darkness ?
>
> ok, the time has come to confess my sin..
>
> when I try to write in Klingon,I start trying to build a sentence and
> slowly I manage to get somewhere. the sentence maybe wrong, but my mind can
> process the way things ought to be. I think of the verb,then who does what
> to whom, glue the prefix, put the object first, the subject last etc..
>
> but when I try to translate from klingon to english it feels as if my mind
> is being tied into a knot. it feels as if I'm driving in reverse going up a
> mountain at night.. I'm used to sentences subject-verb-object,and when i
> try to read in the opposite order it just feels so weird !
>
> unfortunately -for the time being- i can't translate from klingon to
> english. i believe its way too premature for me unless the sentences are
> very simple.
>
> thank you very much for your comments !
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 8:29 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> qunnoQ HoD:
>> >> vInDa'pu' pIm. HatlhmeyDaq pIm. Hatlhmeyvo' pIm. nughmeyvo' pIm.
>>
>> De'vID:
>> > mu'tlheghmey naQ bIHbe'. Dach wot'a'.
>>
>> Note also that {Hatlh} refers to the "country" in the sense of
>> "countryside". The political sense of a "country" or "state" is {Sep}.
>>
>> --
>> De'vID
>>
>
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">that is exactly how I feel at thr moment too. Glad I'm n=
ot alone, qunnoQ.</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 1, 2015 2:27 PM, "qunnoQ HoD" &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br=
type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=
<div><div>> {Holmey lumutlhlu'bogh} =3D "languages which are co=
nstructed".<br><br></div>that is what i wanted to say ! at first I tri=
ed to write <<constructed languages>>,but i couldn't find t=
he exact words. then I thought of saying <<languages linguists constr=
ucted>> but this went south too. so finally I decided to try and writ=
e <<languages which are constructed>><br><br></div>just a quest=
ion on {-ghach} because I didn't quite understand its use. is {-ghach} =
only to be glued at verbs ending in suffixes as {-be'}, {Ha'} etc, =
or can I put it too on verbs such as {Hurgh} ? So as to mean {Hurghghach} =
=3D Darkness ?<br><br></div><div>ok, the time has come to confess my sin..<=
br><br>when I try to write in Klingon,I start trying to build a sentence an=
d slowly I manage to get somewhere. the sentence maybe wrong, but my mind c=
an process the way things ought to be. I think of the verb,then who does wh=
at to whom, glue the prefix, put the object first, the subject last etc..<b=
r><br></div><div>but when I try to translate from klingon to english it fee=
ls as if my mind is being tied into a knot. it feels as if I'm driving =
in reverse going up a mountain at night.. I'm used to sentences subject=
-verb-object,and when i try to read in the opposite order it just feels so =
weird !<br><br></div><div>unfortunately -for the time being- i can't tr=
anslate from klingon to english. i believe its way too premature for me unl=
ess the sentences are very simple.<br><br></div><div>thank you very much fo=
r your comments !<br></div><div><br><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 8:29 PM, De'v=
ID <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">qunnoQ HoD:<br>
<span>>> vInDa'pu' pIm. HatlhmeyDaq pIm. Hatlhmeyvo' pIm.=
nughmeyvo' pIm.<br>
<br>
</span>De'vID:<br>
<span>> mu'tlheghmey naQ bIHbe'. Dach wot'a'.<br>
<br>
</span>Note also that {Hatlh} refers to the "country" in the sens=
e of<br>
"countryside". The political sense of a "country" or &q=
uot;state" is {Sep}.<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
De'vID<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>
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