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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Outdated vocabulary/grammar
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Fri Oct 30 10:48:34 2015
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>, tlhIngan Hol mailing list
<tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:48:18 +0000
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I believe "outdated vocabulary" refers to instances where we have made up n=
ew constructions to express things that we did not have vocabulary for prev=
iously.
For example, Rohan recently mentioned that thanks to the addition of canoni=
cal words for "gold" and "lead", he could update his translation of "The Ri=
me of the Ancient Mariner", which he had previously called {baS 'ugh} ("hea=
vy metal") and {baS SuD} ("yellow/green/blue metal") and not been too pleas=
ed with it.
So, it's not the canonical terms that have become outdated, but rather our =
own innovations which have become obsolete.
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From: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 15:40
To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Outdated vocabulary/grammar
i have noticed on various posts of fellow members that when they have refer=
red to some older texts,they have used the description
"..they (the passages) contain outdated vocabulary/grammar.."
can someone explain what this means ? i could understand "outdated grammar"=
; meaning that these passages have used grammar that has evolved in its ab=
ility to express the desired context.
but what about the "outdated vocabulary" ? does this mean that there are ca=
non words which have been discarded and are not any more in use ?
qunnoQ HoD
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<p>I believe "outdated vocabulary" refers to instances where we h=
ave made up new constructions to express things that we did not have vocabu=
lary for previously.</p>
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<p>For example, Rohan recently mentioned that thanks to the addition of can=
onical words for "gold" and "lead", he could update his=
translation of "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner", which he had p=
reviously called {baS 'ugh} ("heavy metal") and {baS SuD} ("=
yellow/green/blue
metal") and not been too pleased with it.</p>
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<p>So, it's not the canonical terms that have become outdated, but rather o=
ur own innovations which have become obsolete.
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<div>i have noticed on various posts of fellow members that when they have =
referred to some older texts,they have used the description<br>
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"..they (the passages) contain outdated vocabulary/grammar.."<br>
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can someone explain what this means ? i could understand "outdated gra=
mmar" ; meaning that these passages have used grammar that has evolved=
in its ability to express the desired context.<br>
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but what about the "outdated vocabulary" ? does this mean that th=
ere are canon words which have been discarded and are not any more in use ?=
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qunnoQ HoD<br>
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