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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {-be'} and {-qu'} with type 7 and 9 verb suffixes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Wed Oct 28 12:00:45 2015
From: "Robyn Stewart" <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:00:30 -0700
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-chuqqu=E2=80=99 makes perfect sense in context. Remember that =
=E2=80=93qu=E2=80=99 emphasizes.
SuvtaH loDnI=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99.
=E2=80=98Iv Suv?
ghol luSuvbe=E2=80=99. Suvchuqqu=E2=80=99taH. =20
Don=E2=80=99t think of it so much as exceptions, as only saying things =
that make sense.
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- Qov
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From: Michael K=C3=BAnin [mailto:netzakh@yahoo.com]=20
Sent: October 28, 2015 8:33
To: Philip Newton
Cc: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {-be'} and {-qu'} with type 7 and 9 verb =
suffixes
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jagh yIbuS!
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The question as to type 7 (and e.g. Type 1) remains: {-lI'be'}? =
{-chuqqu'}?, though "can come just about anywhere" might imply more =
exceptions than after vs9.
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Qapla'!
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On 28 October 2015 at 00:38, Michael K=C3=BAnin <netzakh@yahoo.com> =
wrote:
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> While the usage of these rovers with main verbs and with type 2 =
suffixes or
> {-laH} is well attested, it occurred to me that nothing explicitly =
prevents
> {-be'} and {-qu'} from being added to ANY verb suffix.
Nothing? Except, perhaps TKD section 4.3, which says that =
=E2=80=98Rovers [=E2=80=A6]
can come just about anywhere except following a Type 9 suffix=E2=80=99.
That seems pretty explicit to me.
Cheers,
Philip
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D'>-chuqqu=E2=80=99 makes perfect sense in context.=C2=A0 Remember that =
=E2=80=93qu=E2=80=99 emphasizes.<br><br>SuvtaH =
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luSuvbe=E2=80=99.=C2=A0 Suvchuqqu=E2=80=99taH.=C2=A0 =
<br><br>Don=E2=80=99t think of it so much as exceptions, as only saying =
things that make sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Michael =
K=C3=BAnin [mailto:netzakh@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> October 28, 2015 =
8:33<br><b>To:</b> Philip Newton<br><b>Cc:</b> =
tlhingan-hol@kli.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] {-be'} and =
{-qu'} with type 7 and 9 verb =
suffixes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>jagh =
yIbuS!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>The question =
as to type 7 (and e.g. Type 1) remains: {-lI'be'}? {-chuqqu'}?, =
though "can come just about anywhere" might imply more =
exceptions than after vs9.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
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style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Qapla'!<o:p></=
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style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>On 28 =
October 2015 at 00:38, Michael K=C3=BAnin <<a =
href=3D"mailto:netzakh@yahoo.com">netzakh@yahoo.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>> =
While the usage of these rovers with main verbs and with type 2 suffixes =
or<br>> {-laH} is well attested, it occurred to me that nothing =
explicitly prevents<br>> {-be'} and {-qu'} from being added to ANY =
verb suffix.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br>Nothin=
g? Except, perhaps TKD section 4.3, which says that =E2=80=98Rovers =
[=E2=80=A6]<br>can come just about anywhere except following a Type 9 =
suffix=E2=80=99.<br><br>That seems pretty explicit to =
me.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Philip<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></bod=
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