[101527] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Things missing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Kidder-Mostrom)
Tue Oct 27 11:11:05 2015
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 10:10:49 -0500
From: Christopher Kidder-Mostrom <cokidder@gmail.com>
To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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I would like to see HolQeD raised from the dead, myself. The books you
suggest for levels are probably better accomplished via courses on the
internet these days, and Qov put together a beginner one that's quite good
for the KLI site. The literature books that have thus far been translated
are also very good for the long-term continued study. I'd recommend
starting with either the Tao Te Ching or Gilgamesh. They are made up of
shorter pieces. Then move on to the more complex works: Dickens,
Shakespeare, Original Works.
As for the idea of an academy, I can't see that happening so long as Marc
O. is alive and active in the language's continuing development. We all
defer to him for words and their meanings. It is, after all, his creative
work, and we tend to respect that.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:53 AM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> i believe 3 things are missing,which if existed they would be of great
> help to Klingon as a language. I realize that for copyright reasons
> mainly,it would be impossible for these 3 things to actually take place but
> anyway,here goes..
>
> 1. KLI should publish all HolQeD as a book/books and make it available
> through every major bookstore. The only experience i had of HolQeD was
> through the "grammarian's desk", which i liked so much that it made me sad
> to think that there were whole issues of HolQeD i could not acquire. Let
> alone the fact that i searched for months until i finally found it.
>
> 2. Three books should be published ; Beginner - Intermediate - Advanced.
> Each should focus on grammar having as many exercises as possible,for the
> student to practice his individual skills depending on his level. And each
> of these books should be as many pages as possible,so as to keep the reader
> interested and gradually working his way to higher levels
>
> 3. There should be an established board/academy/institution which should
> have the authority to create canon (vocabulary & grammar). Its
> proceedings/guidelines should by definition be considered valid and
> accepted among Klingonists throughout the world. And i believe this should
> happen so as to gradually overcome any deficiencies in vocabulary and/or
> grammar in a way that would be globally recognized and accepted.
>
> qunnoQ
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I would like to see HolQeD raised from the dead, myse=
lf.=C2=A0 The books you suggest for levels are probably better accomplished=
via courses on the internet these days, and Qov put together a beginner on=
e that's quite good for the KLI site.=C2=A0 The literature books that h=
ave thus far been translated are also very good for the long-term continued=
study.=C2=A0 I'd recommend starting with either the Tao Te Ching or Gi=
lgamesh.=C2=A0 They are made up of shorter pieces.=C2=A0 Then move on to th=
e more complex works: Dickens, Shakespeare, Original Works.<br><br></div>As=
for the idea of an academy, I can't see that happening so long as Marc=
O. is alive and active in the language's continuing development.=C2=A0=
We all defer to him for words and their meanings. It is, after all, his cr=
eative work, and we tend to respect that.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 9:53 AM, qunnoQ H=
oD <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">i believe 3 things are missing,which if existed they w=
ould be of great help to Klingon as a language. I realize that for copyrigh=
t reasons mainly,it would be impossible for these 3 things to actually take=
place but anyway,here goes..<br><br>1. KLI should publish all HolQeD as a =
book/books and make it available through every major bookstore. The only ex=
perience i had of HolQeD was through the "grammarian's desk",=
which i liked so much that it made me sad to think that there were whole i=
ssues of HolQeD i could not acquire. Let alone the fact that i searched for=
months until i finally found it.<br><br>2. Three books should be published=
; Beginner - Intermediate - Advanced. Each should focus on grammar having =
as many exercises as possible,for the student to practice his individual sk=
ills depending on his level. And each of these books should be as many page=
s as possible,so as to keep the reader interested and gradually working his=
way to higher levels<br><br>3. There should be an established board/academ=
y/institution which should have the authority to create canon (vocabulary &=
amp; grammar). Its proceedings/guidelines should by definition be considere=
d valid and accepted among Klingonists throughout the world. And i believe =
this should happen so as to gradually overcome any deficiencies in vocabula=
ry and/or grammar in a way that would be globally recognized and accepted.<=
span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br>qunnoQ<br></font></sp=
an></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2"><i><b>Christopher Kidder-Mostrom</b></i><=
br></font></div><div><font size=3D"2"><br></font></div><div><font size=3D"2=
"><u>Current Projects: </u><br></font></div><ul><li><font size=3D"2"><b>Dra=
ma Critic:</b> reviewing for <i><a href=3D"http://www.newcitystage.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Newcity Magazine</a> </i>and <a href=3D"http://www.theatre12=
34.com" target=3D"_blank"><i>Theatre By Numbers</i></a></font><br><span></s=
pan></li><li><font size=3D"2"><b>Director:</b><i><b> </b>Not Now, Darling</=
i> at <a href=3D"http://brightsidetheatre.com/" target=3D"_blank">BrightSid=
e Theatre</a>, February 19 - March 6, 2016<i><br></i></font></li><li><font =
size=3D"2"><b>Board Member:</b> Illinois Theatre Association - Professional=
Division Rep<br></font></li></ul></div></div></span><a href=3D"http://www.=
christopherokidder.com" target=3D"_blank"></a></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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