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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qaghwI' between consonants

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lieven)
Sat Oct 24 08:53:03 2015

To: "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
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From: Lieven <levinius@gmx.de>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2015 14:53:03 +0200
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Am 24.10.2015 um 08:11 schrieb Robyn Stewart:
 > 3.Names can take any form the user wants them to, including letters =

and letter combinations that aren=92t in tlhIngan Hol.

First to make clear: Qov is one of the most experienced Klingon speakers =

I have ever met, so I have my greatest respect to her knowledge and =

grammatical opinion. That's why it's not easy for me to contradict.

This is important for true beginners to understand this correctly:

Yes, names can be whatever they are. Of course there is no rule for =

names, and they may look what they look like.

But, on the other hand, it depends on the question asked: if you want to =

make a name which follows correct tlhIngan Hol syllables, then you can =

NOT do what you want. The Klingon letters we use are some kind of =

pronunciation system, and the apostrophe between most consonants just =

cannot be pronounced. I definitely DISCOMMEND any beginners to write =

words like {qun'noQ} or {QIt'vur} because they simply can NOT be =

pronounced. It's like writing english names like "Kpnolstkr" and =

"Apprlk" - it just makes no sense.

What you can do is what most authors do, writing "english" Klingon names =

as we know "K'mtor" or "K'Tinga", but that'sno tlhIngan Hol.

{paq'batlh} is really one of very few exceptions [please name any =

others], which is based on the incorrect spelling of the autors, and =

that's why okrand has explained it as archaic klingon.

-- =

Lieven L. Litaer
aka Quvar valer 'utlh
Grammarian of the KLI
http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher
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