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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] how did Okrand choose which words to create ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qunnoQ HoD)
Tue Oct 13 02:16:02 2015
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 09:15:47 +0300
From: qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun@gmail.com>
To: "lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh" <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
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out of curiosity..
1. does all this mean that Okrand is not creating any more new canon words
? or at least regularly ?
2. does the KLI have an active relation with Okrand ? and if it does,does
it ask for new vocabulary ?
3. vocabulary aside,does Okrand add new info about Klingon grammar ?
qunnoQ
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:34 PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <
lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com> wrote:
> In addition to ghunchu=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99=E2=80=99s perfect recollection=
of how the vocabulary
> evolved in Klingon, many of the words have a story behind them. People wh=
o
> have been long loyal to the language and made significant labor
> contributions to the KLI and its mission have been awarded =E2=80=9CFrien=
ds of
> Maltz=E2=80=9D certificates and granted the privilege of asking for a new=
word in
> the vocabulary. He=E2=80=99s usually met these few requests with small se=
ts of
> words that are useful in describing things like the word requested.
>
> ghunchu=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 is one of the people awarded that honor, as h=
ave, I believe
> SuStel, Seqram and several others. It=E2=80=99s a rare treat. I asked for=
=E2=80=9Cbottom=E2=80=9D,
> and we got {pIrmuS}, among other words, and just last week, I went to see
> Midsummer Night=E2=80=99s Dream and saw the play within a play where the =
lover
> Pirimus is played by an actor named Bottom. The play is hilarious and was
> wonderfully produced by the world-class Shakespearian players at
> Blackfriars Theater, in, of all places, Harrisonburg, VA.
>
> But as funny as it was, I was smiling wider than everybody else.
>
> But it=E2=80=99s a one-shot deal. He doesn=E2=80=99t ask us for more word=
s later on...
>
> Sometimes book authors consult with Dr. Okrand, requesting words (usually
> nouns). Sometimes language instruction companies come up with a Klingon
> program and ask for vocabulary.
>
> Sometimes, Paramount comes up with a product that they want words for,
> like the Klingon version of the Bird of Prey poster, with a cutaway and
> technical descriptions and cutaways.
>
> And sometimes, Okrand just thinks of something to add, usually with some
> sort of joke hidden inside that we may or may not ever figure out.
>
> lojmIt tI=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 nuv =E2=80=98utlh
> Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably
>
>
>
> > On Oct 11, 2015, at 11:20 AM, HoD qunnoQ <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > i would like to ask,if anyone knows whether Okrand has ever commented o=
n
> how he chose which English words to translate to Klingon,and which to omi=
t.
> Is anything known on this subject ?
> >
> > for instance why create a word for <<country>> and not a word for
> <<personalize>> ; why a word for <<plate>> and not a word for <<folder>> =
?
> (just random examples)
> >
> > qunnoQ
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>out of curiosity..<br><br><br></div>1.=
does all this mean that Okrand is not creating any more new canon words ? =
or at least regularly ?<br></div>2. does the KLI have an active relation wi=
th Okrand ? and if it does,does it ask for new vocabulary ?<br></div>3. voc=
abulary aside,does Okrand add new info about Klingon grammar ?<br><br></div=
>qunnoQ<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:34 PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <span =
dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">In addition to ghunchu=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99=E2=80=99s perfect rec=
ollection of how the vocabulary evolved in Klingon, many of the words have =
a story behind them. People who have been long loyal to the language and ma=
de significant labor contributions to the KLI and its mission have been awa=
rded =E2=80=9CFriends of Maltz=E2=80=9D certificates and granted the privil=
ege of asking for a new word in the vocabulary. He=E2=80=99s usually met th=
ese few requests with small sets of words that are useful in describing thi=
ngs like the word requested.<br>
<br>
ghunchu=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 is one of the people awarded that honor, as hav=
e, I believe SuStel, Seqram and several others. It=E2=80=99s a rare treat. =
I asked for =E2=80=9Cbottom=E2=80=9D, and we got {pIrmuS}, among other word=
s, and just last week, I went to see Midsummer Night=E2=80=99s Dream and sa=
w the play within a play where the lover Pirimus is played by an actor name=
d Bottom. The play is hilarious and was wonderfully produced by the world-c=
lass Shakespearian players at Blackfriars Theater, in, of all places, Harri=
sonburg, VA.<br>
<br>
But as funny as it was, I was smiling wider than everybody else.<br>
<br>
But it=E2=80=99s a one-shot deal. He doesn=E2=80=99t ask us for more words =
later on...<br>
<br>
Sometimes book authors consult with Dr. Okrand, requesting words (usually n=
ouns). Sometimes language instruction companies come up with a Klingon prog=
ram and ask for vocabulary.<br>
<br>
Sometimes, Paramount comes up with a product that they want words for, like=
the Klingon version of the Bird of Prey poster, with a cutaway and technic=
al descriptions and cutaways.<br>
<br>
And sometimes, Okrand just thinks of something to add, usually with some so=
rt of joke hidden inside that we may or may not ever figure out.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
lojmIt tI=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99 nuv =E2=80=98utlh<br>
Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
> On Oct 11, 2015, at 11:20 AM, HoD qunnoQ <<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun=
@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> i would like to ask,if anyone knows whether Okrand has ever commented =
on how he chose which English words to translate to Klingon,and which to om=
it. Is anything known on this subject ?<br>
><br>
> for instance why create a word for <<country>> and not a w=
ord for <<personalize>> ; why a word for <<plate>> =
and not a word for <<folder>> ? (just random examples)<br>
><br>
> qunnoQ<br>
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