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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Adjectives
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Martin)
Fri Oct 9 17:07:14 2015
From: Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 17:07:01 -0400
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If you don=E2=80=99t trust your listener to know the difference by =
context, you can tweak the grammar to make it clear:
peghbogh nuH
=E2=80=9CThe weapon, which is secret=E2=80=9D means the same thing as =
=E2=80=9Cthe secret weapon=E2=80=9D, and it cannot possibly be =
misinterpreted as =E2=80=9Cthe weapon=E2=80=99s secret".
nuH peghna=E2=80=99
Any noun suffix can make this obviously =E2=80=9Cthe weapon=E2=80=99s =
secret=E2=80=9D, and in most cases, you can come up with an appropriate =
noun suffix to force this interpretation. It can=E2=80=99t be =
misinterpreted as =E2=80=9Cthe secret weapon=E2=80=9D.
pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
> On Oct 9, 2015, at 4:20 PM, HoD qunnoQ <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
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> i just read in hol.kag.org <http://hol.kag.org/> that "Those notions =
expressed as adjectives in English (such as big, tired) are expressed by =
verbs in Klingon (be big, be tired)"
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> but what am i to do,when the klingon verb is a noun too ?
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> suppose i want to write "secret weapon". if i say "nuH pegh" can't =
this be mistaken for "secret of the weapon" or "weapon's secret" ?
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> qunnoQ
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">If you don=E2=80=99t trust your listener to =
know the difference by context, you can tweak the grammar to make it =
clear:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">peghbogh =
nuH</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">=E2=80=9CThe=
weapon, which is secret=E2=80=9D means the same thing as =E2=80=9Cthe =
secret weapon=E2=80=9D, and it cannot possibly be misinterpreted as =
=E2=80=9Cthe weapon=E2=80=99s secret".</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">nuH peghna=E2=80=99</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Any noun suffix can make =
this obviously =E2=80=9Cthe weapon=E2=80=99s secret=E2=80=9D, and in =
most cases, you can come up with an appropriate noun suffix to force =
this interpretation. It can=E2=80=99t be misinterpreted as =E2=80=9Cthe =
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class=3D"">On Oct 9, 2015, at 4:20 PM, HoD qunnoQ <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class=3D"">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">i =
just read in <a href=3D"http://hol.kag.org/" class=3D"">hol.kag.org</a> =
that "<span id=3D"TKDText" class=3D"">Those notions expressed as =
adjectives in English (such as <b class=3D"">big, tired</b>) are =
expressed by verbs in Klingon (<b class=3D"">be big, be tired</b>)"<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><span id=3D"TKDText" class=3D"">but=
what am i to do,when the klingon verb is a noun too ?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></div><span id=3D"TKDText" class=3D"">suppose i want =
to write "secret weapon". if i say "nuH pegh" can't this be mistaken for =
"secret of the weapon" or "weapon's secret" ?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></div><span id=3D"TKDText" class=3D"">qunnoQ<br =
class=3D""></span></div>
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