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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Bird of Prey Classes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?=)
Fri Oct 9 08:18:23 2015
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 14:18:04 +0200
From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?= <esperantist@gmail.com>
To: HoD qunnoQ <mihkoun@gmail.com>
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Those names, just like most personal Klingon names in the Star Trek
universe aren't "proper" Klingon orthography, nor are they the common
transcription we use. They're phonetic respellings in English and not
accurately render the Klingon pronuniciation. Also "Worf" or "B'Etor"
aren't possible words in Klingon.
For some of these we have the Klingon spelling, though:
B'rel =3D {bI'rel}
K'tinga =3D {qItI'nga'}
Worf =3D {wo'rIv}
B'Etor =3D {be'etor}
d'k tahg =3D {Daqtagh}
Kruge =3D {Qugh}
Apostrophes in non-Klingon spelling often doesn't serve much purpose. You
have similar spellings in names of other aliens in other series, such as
Teal'c in Stargate SG-1.
- Andr=C3=A9
P.S.: {nuqneH} and {Qapla'} are not greetings. Why would you write a
message to the mailinglist asking what we want? It's you, who wants
something. There is no Klingon word for 'hello', {nuqneH?} is only one
possibility to say when someone approaches you, but not what you would say
when you approach someone. Likewise, why {Qapla'}? You're wishing us
success... but success with what? It's not a greeting, it's a wish.
2015-10-09 13:56 GMT+02:00 HoD qunnoQ <mihkoun@gmail.com>:
> nuqneH
>
> i was searching online for Klingon Birds of Prey, and i noticed that
> various classes are named like this : simple consonant-->glottal
> stop-->consonant.
>
> for example b'rel klass, k't'inga class, etc..
>
> are these names considered canon ? i mean apart the "k't'inga" which
> obviously can't be canon (klingon does not have the letter "k") what abou=
t
> the "b'rel" ? Am i allowed to place a single consonant followed by the
> glottal stop,and then another consonant ?
>
> Qapla'!
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Those na=
mes, just like most personal Klingon names in the Star Trek universe aren&#=
39;t "proper" Klingon orthography, nor are they the common transc=
ription we use. They're phonetic respellings in English and not accurat=
ely render the Klingon pronuniciation. Also "Worf" or "B'=
;Etor" aren't possible words in Klingon.<br><br></div>For some of =
these we have the Klingon spelling, though:<br></div>B'rel =3D {bI'=
rel}<br></div>K'tinga =3D {qItI'nga'}<br></div>Worf =3D {wo'=
;rIv}<br></div>B'Etor =3D {be'etor}<br></div>d'k tahg =3D {Daqt=
agh}<br></div>Kruge =3D {Qugh}<br><br></div>Apostrophes in non-Klingon spel=
ling often doesn't serve much purpose. You have similar spellings in na=
mes of other aliens in other series, such as Teal'c in Stargate SG-1.<b=
r><br></div>- Andr=C3=A9<br><br></div>P.S.: {nuqneH} and {Qapla'} are n=
ot greetings. Why would you write a message to the mailinglist asking what =
we want? It's you, who wants something. There is no Klingon word for &#=
39;hello', {nuqneH?} is only one possibility to say when someone approa=
ches you, but not what you would say when you approach someone. Likewise, w=
hy {Qapla'}? You're wishing us success... but success with what? It=
's not a greeting, it's a wish.<br><div><div><div><div><div><div><d=
iv><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2015-10-09 13:5=
6 GMT+02:00 HoD qunnoQ <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>nuqneH<br><br></div>i was=
searching online for Klingon Birds of Prey, and i noticed that various cla=
sses are named like this : simple consonant-->glottal stop-->consonan=
t.<br><br></div>for example b'rel klass, k't'inga class, etc..<=
br><br></div><div>are these names considered canon ? i mean apart the "=
;k't'inga" which obviously can't be canon (klingon does no=
t have the letter "k") what about the "b'rel" ? Am =
i allowed to place a single consonant followed by the glottal stop,and then=
another consonant ?<br><br></div><div>Qapla'!<br></div></div>
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