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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Phonology of Klingon
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Martin)
Thu Oct 8 08:54:11 2015
From: Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 08:53:50 -0400
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=E2=80=A6 and just to add to Qov=E2=80=99s excellent explanation, {y} is =
not a vowel in Klingon phonology. It=E2=80=99s a consonant. In English, =
it gets used as both, but in Klingon, it is used exclusively as a =
consonant.
pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 12:40 AM, Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca> =
wrote:
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> The suffix -oy is the only possible (and not confirmed) exception to =
the rule that syllables always begin with a consonant. There are many =
syllables that end in a vowel, all the verb prefixes, for example, and =
quite a few words that end in vowels, too. For example Do (velocity) =
HaSta (viewing screen) and tI (vegetation).
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> From: HoD qunnoQ [mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com]=20
> Sent: October 7, 2015 21:24
> To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list
> Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Phonology of Klingon
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> nuqneH
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> I was reading this link :http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Phonology =
<http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Phonology>
> And it says that a valid syllable is the combination CV =
(consonant-vowel). Does this mean that i can have this combination at =
the end of a word,without the glottal stop following it ? I thought that =
whenever there is a vowel at the end of a word the glottal stop must =
always follow it (as part of the same word), with the "oy" as the only =
exception to this rule.
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">=E2=80=A6 and just to add to Qov=E2=80=99s =
excellent explanation, {y} is not a vowel in Klingon phonology. It=E2=80=99=
s a consonant. In English, it gets used as both, but in Klingon, it is =
used exclusively as a consonant.</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Oct 8, 2015, at 12:40 AM, Robyn Stewart <<a =
href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca" =
class=3D"">robyn@flyingstart.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
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none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">The suffix -oy is the only possible (and =
not confirmed) exception to the rule that syllables always begin with a =
consonant. There are many syllables that end in a vowel, all the verb =
prefixes, for example, and quite a few words that end in vowels, =
too. For example Do (velocity) HaSta (viewing screen) and tI =
(vegetation).<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>HoD qunnoQ [<a =
href=3D"mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>October 7, 2015 21:24<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>tlhIngan Hol mailing =
list<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Tlhingan-hol] Phonology of =
Klingon<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">nuqneH<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br class=3D"">I was reading =
this link :<a href=3D"http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Phonology" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Phonology</a><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">And =
it says that a valid syllable is the combination CV (consonant-vowel). =
Does this mean that i can have this combination at the end of a =
word,without the glottal stop following it ? I thought that whenever =
there is a vowel at the end of a word the glottal stop must always =
follow it (as part of the same word), with the "oy" as the only =
exception to this rule.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
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